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This would be funny if I didn't own one of their diesel generators.

Note how they spell 'Quality'. It say it all.

http://www.launtop.cn/partlist.asp

None of the PDF files download properly.


Then I find out they've recalled my generator because of possible
counterfeit CSA certification of electrical components. When am I going
to LEARN?

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TORONTO, ON – September 26, 2007 – CSA International, in cooperation
with Fuzhou Launtop M&E Co. Ltd. and Better Source Asia, of Fuzhou City,
China announces a voluntary recall of approximately 30,000 gasoline-and
diesel-powered generators. The affected models were produced with
uncertified circuit protectors, circuit breakers, receptacles and wiring
and do not meet the applicable standards. The uncertified components and
wiring may pose a shock and/or fire hazard. In addition, some generators
may have circuit breakers bearing counterfeit (unauthorized use)
registered trademarks belonging to CSA International.

No incidents or injuries have been reported related to the affected
generators.

This recall affects all gasoline models rated for 950 W, 1200 W, 2500 W,
3000 W, 3800 W, 5000 W, and 6500 W and diesel models rated for 2200 W,
3600 W, 5000 W, 5500 W and 6000 W. The affected models may bear a CSA
mark with or without file numbers 223771 or 233220.

These generators were sold in Canada and the United States under the
brand names Alternative Power Source, Aurora, CM, Elim International,
Ener G, Genertek, Launtop, Portland, Power on the Go, Red Maple. The
units were sold by retail, equipment auction houses and internet outlets
for between $160.00 to $2,300.00 CDN


http://www.csa-international.org/pro...nguage=english

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In article TvLtk.10378$nu6.5392@edtnps83, says...
This would be funny if I didn't own one of their diesel generators.

Note how they spell 'Quality'. It say it all.

http://www.launtop.cn/partlist.asp

None of the PDF files download properly.


Then I find out they've recalled my generator because of possible
counterfeit CSA certification of electrical components. When am I going
to LEARN?

======================================

TORONTO, ON â¤=3F September 26, 2007 â¤=3F CSA International, in cooperation
with Fuzhou Launtop M&E Co. Ltd. and Better Source Asia, of Fuzhou City,
China announces a voluntary recall of approximately 30,000 gasoline-and
diesel-powered generators. The affected models were produced with
uncertified circuit protectors, circuit breakers, receptacles and wiring
and do not meet the applicable standards. The uncertified components and
wiring may pose a shock and/or fire hazard. In addition, some generators
may have circuit breakers bearing counterfeit (unauthorized use)
registered trademarks belonging to CSA International.

No incidents or injuries have been reported related to the affected
generators.

This recall affects all gasoline models rated for 950 W, 1200 W, 2500 W,
3000 W, 3800 W, 5000 W, and 6500 W and diesel models rated for 2200 W,
3600 W, 5000 W, 5500 W and 6000 W. The affected models may bear a CSA
mark with or without file numbers 223771 or 233220.

These generators were sold in Canada and the United States under the
brand names Alternative Power Source, Aurora, CM, Elim International,
Ener G, Genertek, Launtop, Portland, Power on the Go, Red Maple. The
units were sold by retail, equipment auction houses and internet outlets
for between $160.00 to $2,300.00 CDN


http://www.csa-international.org/pro...nguage=english

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I have seen some amazingly badly made electronics from China over the
years. I thought nothing would outcrap some of the Hong Kong stuff from
40-45 years ago, but that stuff is great compared to a lot of China made
stuff. Not that it's all bad, a lot of computer stuff is made very well.

I saw a PC power supply, supposedly 600 watt, that was downright scary
inside. It looked great on the outside, it had a neat looking case, and
lit up with nice green LEDS. Inside, there were parts with long
untrimmed leads, no sleeves on them, junk caps in it, and poor
soldering, like I did at age 7, maybe worse. A friend bought it at a
computer show, and it exploded about a week after it was put into a
machine. I'm pretty positive any CSA/UL stickers it had were phony too.
He paid $65 for it, a price that would have bought him a much better
power supply from newegg.com or tigerdriect.com, among others.


My all time favorite was the impressive looking radio I bought at a
garage sale in the early 70's. It said "15 Transistor" on the front of
it, and was BIG. Funny though, it didn't play very loudly, and was
pretty deaf on FM. I wondered if maybe the antenna wasn't connected, or
something else was wrong with it. There was something wrong, 9 of the 15
transistors had the leads soldered together, into a single hole in the
PC board. Even the board was pitiful, the traces looked like the first
boards I made myself, with one of those resist pens, drawn freehand.

When it died, we took it out and shot it with a .357 magnum, and it blew
up real good.



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BDK wrote:

When it died, we took it out and shot it with a .357 magnum, and it blew
up real good.



That must have felt good. I'll bet it wasn't Chinese ammo.




mike

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"m II" wrote in message news:tOVtk.10425$nu6.3516@edtnps83...
BDK wrote:

When it died, we took it out and shot it with a .357 magnum, and it blew
up real good.



That must have felt good. I'll bet it wasn't Chinese ammo.

When a local radio station went off the air in the '70s, a friend of mine
and I took some guns and a boatload of transistor radios we bought from
various second hand stores for next to nothing, stuff Radio Shack free
batteries in them, put them all on that station, and as the station signed
off, shot all the radios into smallish pieces..


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Brenda Ann wrote:
"m II" wrote in message news:tOVtk.10425$nu6.3516@edtnps83...
BDK wrote:

When it died, we took it out and shot it with a .357 magnum, and it blew
up real good.



That must have felt good. I'll bet it wasn't Chinese ammo.

When a local radio station went off the air in the '70s, a friend of mine
and I took some guns and a boatload of transistor radios we bought from
various second hand stores for next to nothing, stuff Radio Shack free
batteries in them, put them all on that station, and as the station signed
off, shot all the radios into smallish pieces..



Ceremony is everything.




mike


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In article Or4uk.10524$nu6.9283@edtnps83, says...
Brenda Ann wrote:
"m II" wrote in message news:tOVtk.10425$nu6.3516@edtnps83...
BDK wrote:

When it died, we took it out and shot it with a .357 magnum, and it blew
up real good.



That must have felt good. I'll bet it wasn't Chinese ammo.

When a local radio station went off the air in the '70s, a friend of mine
and I took some guns and a boatload of transistor radios we bought from
various second hand stores for next to nothing, stuff Radio Shack free
batteries in them, put them all on that station, and as the station signed
off, shot all the radios into smallish pieces..



Ceremony is everything.




mike




My favorite is to shoot clocks, ones with big mainsprings that explode
when you hit them in the right place. My friend owns a jewelry store,
and they get crappy old clocks in all the time for repairs that are
never picked up when the owner gets the estimate for repairs that are
several times what the clock itself is worth after repairs.

One time, a spring flew an amazing distance when one of us hit it with a
44 magnum hollow point. There wasn't much left of the clock itself, and
the spring flew about 150 feet like a snake being tossed. Very
impressive. What a mess to clean up...

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BDK wrote:

My favorite is to shoot clocks, ones with big mainsprings that explode
when you hit them in the right place. My friend owns a jewelry store,
and they get crappy old clocks in all the time for repairs that are
never picked up when the owner gets the estimate for repairs that are
several times what the clock itself is worth after repairs.

One time, a spring flew an amazing distance when one of us hit it with a
44 magnum hollow point. There wasn't much left of the clock itself, and
the spring flew about 150 feet like a snake being tossed. Very
impressive. What a mess to clean up...



My high point, or lack of it, was finding an old TV set in the dump we
used to shoot in. Visions of a small atomic bomb blast came to our young
minds. We set up about fifty feet away and with quite a bit of worry and
excitement, let loose on the screen with the 22 bolt actions.

I still remember, with some bitterness, the absolute lack of anything
resembling excitement. There may have been a slight hiss of air entering
the holes. It must have been slight as it went pretty much unnoticed.

That's when I learned that the anticipation usually exceeds the
acquisition.



mike


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My high point, or lack of it, was finding an old TV set in the dump we
used to shoot in. Visions of a small atomic bomb blast came to our young
minds. We set up about fifty feet away and with quite a bit of worry and
excitement, let loose on the screen with the 22 bolt actions.

I still remember, with some bitterness, the absolute lack of anything
resembling excitement. There may have been a slight hiss of air entering
the holes. It must have been slight as it went pretty much unnoticed.

That's when I learned that the anticipation usually exceeds the
acquisition.

Maybe the tube was already broken (nipple on the neck broken off). CRT's
don't do much when you shoot them from the front, anyway... because they're
designed not to implode in that direction for safety purposes.

Same friend as my above post and myself took a particularly problematic TV
(we had repaired it and sold it, and it kept coming back with new problems)
down to his basement, set it up against the woodpile, got out a .22, .45 and
a couple small rifles. We turned the set on (reruns of Mary Hartman, Mary
Hartman were running), and opened up on it. The picture went away pretty
quickly.. what with four slugs immediately into the CRT, with no implosion.
The sound took longer. I think it finally went when we popped a few into the
tuner.. When we finally stopped, there were STILL tubes lit up in there,
so we apparently missed the power transformer, switch and associated
circuitry.. but it was great fun.


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In article ,
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In article Or4uk.10524$nu6.9283@edtnps83,
says...
Brenda Ann wrote:
"m II" wrote in message news:tOVtk.10425$nu6.3516@edtnps83...
BDK wrote:

When it died, we took it out and shot it with a .357 magnum, and it blew
up real good.


That must have felt good. I'll bet it wasn't Chinese ammo.

When a local radio station went off the air in the '70s, a friend of mine
and I took some guns and a boatload of transistor radios we bought from
various second hand stores for next to nothing, stuff Radio Shack free
batteries in them, put them all on that station, and as the station signed
off, shot all the radios into smallish pieces..



Ceremony is everything.




mike




My favorite is to shoot clocks, ones with big mainsprings that explode
when you hit them in the right place. My friend owns a jewelry store,
and they get crappy old clocks in all the time for repairs that are
never picked up when the owner gets the estimate for repairs that are
several times what the clock itself is worth after repairs.

One time, a spring flew an amazing distance when one of us hit it with a
44 magnum hollow point. There wasn't much left of the clock itself, and
the spring flew about 150 feet like a snake being tossed. Very
impressive. What a mess to clean up...



One thing that never disappoints is old melons that are past their
prime. We get them from a store's trash bin, and with hollow points, and
a .357,.45, or a .44 mag, they explode nicely, and are totally
biodegradable.

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