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Default FCC took 11 meters from Hams and gave it to CB'ers.

Harry Gross wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
Thus, a continuous wave is incapable of conveying
any information.


Um, not quite:-) The very presence of the CW signal conveys SOME
information (e.q. the fact that something is out there generating it:-)


"Information - an indication of the number of possible
choices of messages, expressible as the value of some
monotonic function of the number of choices."
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X-rated Vermonter wrote:
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:34:08 GMT, Slow Code wrote:


When CW is gone, CB'ers will get the other bands too.


SC


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I fail to see the connection between Country and Western music bands
and amateur radio. And what makes you think that Country and Western
is endangered in the first place?


Country seems to be doing fine, Western might be sparse on the ground
but that's the nature of that beast.
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X-rated wrote:
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:34:08 GMT, Slow Code wrote:


When CW is gone, CB'ers will get the other bands too.


SC

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I fail to see the connection between Country and Western music bands
and amateur radio. And what makes you think that Country and Western
is endangered in the first place?


Actually today it is Country and Restroom.

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Is this a Chat Room?
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When CW is gone, CB'ers will get the other bands too.


SC




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This is worse that a chat room, lotsalaughs
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Is this a Chat Room?
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When CW is gone, CB'ers will get the other bands too.


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Default FCC took 11 meters from Hams and gave it to CB'ers.

I think you will find that cw is making a comeback. Now that the cw
requirement has been serverly reduced, more hams are getting into cw
and it should be starting to make a comback....

Second... I also think you will find that the fcc, and in my country
the IC, are deeply regretting the conversion of 11 meters to 'cb'.
Virtually all of our bad radio operating procedures, of all radio
services, can all be traced back to the bad operating technique found
in the 11 meter cb band....

Larry ve3fxq


Slow Code wrote:
When CW is gone, CB'ers will get the other bands too.


SC


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Second... I also think you will find that the fcc, and in my country
the IC, are deeply regretting the conversion of 11 meters to 'cb'.


I hope not. The FCC providing unlicensed spectrum for the masses was one of
the smartest thing they ever did! Yes, it leads to all sorts of horrible
operating practices, but CB and -- more contemporarily -- FRS/GMRS and WiFi
had provided *huge* benefits for people (and many millions of dollars in
equipment sales) nationwide. I'd hate to live in a country where there's no
such thing as a license-free $20 pair of FRS-type walkie talkies or $20 WiFi
cards for high-speed Internet access.

Virtually all of our bad radio operating procedures, of all radio
services, can all be traced back to the bad operating technique found
in the 11 meter cb band....


I'd say they can be traced back to human nature. People were rowdy and
"uncouth" in, say, taverns for thousands of years before CB came along.

---Joel


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Joel Kolstad wrote:

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I'd say they can be traced back to human nature. People were rowdy and
"uncouth" in, say, taverns for thousands of years before CB came along.

---Joel



I'll agree with the uncouth in the taverns part, but, disagree with the context.

CB brought the uncouth out of the tavern and onto the air.

:-)

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CB brought the uncouth out of the tavern and onto the air.


Drive by the tavern... tune past the CBers? ;-)

I suppose amateur radio is supposed to be more a high-class dining
establishment than a dinner -- suit, tie, and official FCC-approved membership
required --, although these days you wouldn't necessarily know it from
listening to the airwaves.






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