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They
were bought at a hamfest
and the dealer told everyone that they are ok in the amateur band. I
have no intention of selling anything
illegal. Thanks.

k5die

I don't mean to blow the whistle, but they actually go looking for stuff
like that on the Internet. Probably not a problem between two hams that
don't go out of band, but put it out on the Internet, and no telling who
will find it.

Stay safe, OM

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On Oct 3, 12:52*am, "JB" wrote:

k5die

I don't mean to blow the whistle, but they actually go looking for stuff
like that on the Internet. *Probably not a problem between two hams that
don't go out of band, but put it out on the Internet, and no telling who
will find it.

Stay safe, OM


JB, I don't know who "they" are. If you're referring to the FCC, I'm
sure they would go after dealers but
I have serious doubts they have the resources to go after an
individual who accidentally posted a radio for sale that
isn't type accepted. I did a QRZ search on the reviews for Puxing
radios and 10 of the 21 reviews
were posted by US hams with displayed call letters. I suppose we
should all expect a visit by
federal agents now.

These radios are NO LONGER FOR SALE. I'm sorry I ever posted them in
the first place. This has
opened a hornet's nest of e-mail from mostly hams who either are
threatening to report me to the
FCC or are telling me that the radios are fine for amateur use. I
won't sell them and I won't use
them. In fact, I'm considering taking a hammer to them and posting a
picture of the remains on my
web page. Can we please let this drop now?
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I'm sorry if it embarrasses you, but exploitation of part 97 loopholes, has
resulted in greater tightening of part 97 rules.

As illustrated in the FCC doc and from experience, there is no law
prohibiting the act of a licensed ham transmitting from a transmitter on the
ham bands as long as it meets the emission standards in part 97. Put your
own serial number on it and call it your ham radio.

The problem is with offering for sale, a transmitter "capable of
transmitting from 400-500 mhz at 4 watts" without a FCC ID plate for that
range.

I know of a ham dealer who avoids all problems by requiring a callsign prior
to sale. If there are discussions regarding "mods", discussion and
transaction is terminated. If there is discussion of "mods" after the sale,
they are referred elsewhere unless they have some NTIA approved reason for
it. There is new NTIA policy to close that loophole also. All of these
abuses are resulting in the targetting of ham regulations to close up
loopholes.

This is a gotcha when buying import radios. None of the radios can be
legally sold here unless they have FCC approval, unless they flat don't
transmit. Consumers and Commercial people who buy stuff that can't pass the
tests are completely screwed with no recourse or remedy except to rat out
the US dealer.

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