I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore. Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person can do about it.

You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is.

Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a pain in the neck to others is a good example.

Well believe it or not there are still plenty of Amish folks around here
with their horses. They don't care what anyone else thinks. They just do
what they do.

And yes, 80m phone is a pain in the ass.


"hamradiostuffing" wrote in
message . ..

I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore.
Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther
are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person
can do about it.

You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world
changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is.

Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of
which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a
pain in the neck to others is a good example.


--
hamradiostuffing

I think not ! Lovers of Morse are the musicians of WIRELESS

Always will be - CW LIVES

from CW Zealot !




"hamradiostuffing" wrote in
message . ..

I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore.
Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther
are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person
can do about it.

You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world
changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is.

Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of
which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a
pain in the neck to others is a good example.


--
hamradiostuffing

Well during the ARRL Field Day, 2005, there were over 500,000 CW contacts
made from 2212 entrants
Thats just one weekend bucko.
See QST December 2005

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CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

"hamradiostuffing" wrote in
message . ..

I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore.
Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther
are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person
can do about it.

You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world
changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is.

Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of
which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a
pain in the neck to others is a good example.


--
hamradiostuffing

Its those other 363 1/4 days in a year you have to justify now....

FWIW, the FCC, ITU, IARU, WARC and a few other Alphabet-Soup organizations
don't share the zeal that you and the ARRL do concerning CW. Maybe that
should serve as a small hint.

As it stands now, even the most casual disinterested observer has come to
the conclusion that CW as a requirement is detrimental to the Amateur Radio
Service's survival.

I personally like the appeal of Nostalgia. I have some old tube items,
collect old glass bottles, some coins, etc. However - I haven't tried to
make that a requirement for the continuation of life for anyone around me.

Your mileage may vary. I have friends who, on occaision, have to re-shoe
their horses. However, they don't petition the State Police to make Shoing
a Horse a requirement for getting a Driver's License.

For those who seem to be a little shy on observational capabilities, digital
is most likely here to stay. ISDN specs ushered in during the late 1980s
and early 1990s should have been a dead give-away to this trend; and that
was nearly 2 decades ago.

The lack of acknowledgement of the ARRL to the changing times has already
taken a large toll. I hope the coming restructuring, in regards to dropping
CW, isn't too little too late.

For those diehards that want to punish every one with CW as a requirement,
the younger Hams have formed an organization of their own; "Pallbearers 'R
Us", and they will most likely get the last word in the matter.

Pound Away,

David
KD4NUE



"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:ZN0gf.8371$qw.6219@fed1read07...
Well during the ARRL Field Day, 2005, there were over 500,000 CW contacts
made from 2212 entrants
Thats just one weekend bucko.
See QST December 2005

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CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

"hamradiostuffing" wrote
in message . ..

I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore.
Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther
are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person
can do about it.

You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world
changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is.

Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of
which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a
pain in the neck to others is a good example.


--
hamradiostuffing

As far as the horse goes. Saturday while I was enroute to the Ft. Wayne
hamfest as I was gasing up the old Element a couple rode by in their one
horse buggy, waved very friendly at us at the $2.08 per gallon pumps and
kept right on truckin. Gas has dropped a dollar in the past month or
so. The cost of hay has something to go for it.

Dave WD9BDZ

Josh wrote:

I think not ! Lovers of Morse are the musicians of WIRELESS

Always will be - CW LIVES

from CW Zealot !




"hamradiostuffing" wrote in
message . ..

I think it is just time realize that no one is going to use CW anymore.
Sure a horse get you from A to B. How often does that happen when ther
are cars around. CW is going to go away and there is nothing a person
can do about it.

You hope all you want the keep it but it will do you no good. The world
changes ham radio is dying and that is just the way it is.

Ham radio has changed and has become advanced CB operators some of
which are EXTRA License holders. Like getting drunk ON HF and being a
pain in the neck to others is a good example.


--
hamradiostuffing

Don't forget to mention having to shoe a horse to qualify you for a driver's
license....

Unfortunately, the decision to drop CW is too little, too late to revive the
Amateur Radio Service. The "League" has already laid it to rest with too
many decades of looking progressively backwards and relying too much on anal
rebreathing apparatus to provide their insight......


"Hamguy" wrote in message
...
Just because my Great Grandfather had to 'crank start' his car, we should
ALL have to learn how to do it prior to driving. And his wife had to use a
'crank style' telephone, therefore we ALL should have to master that
technology PRIOR to using a cell-phone just because they did.
Additionally,
we should ALL have to learn the computer language known as 'Basic' or
'Fortran' PRIOR to using a PC because I and so many others had to learn
it.
And EVERYONE should be required to learn an antiquated mode known as CW
before they get on HF because some 18th century guy invented it. Either
catch-up with the times, or get the HELL out of the way! Like it or not,
CW is TOAST!

Here we have a loser who just trying to yank someone's chain, it worked,
look at a the replies. What the future of amateur radio ? If you go out and
make contact with some the current batch of cbers, and you will see it. No
requirements of any kind, if there is the test, you will have seen the
answers before hand.

Jim, kf4tun


"Hamguy" wrote in message
...
Just because my Great Grandfather had to 'crank start' his car, we should
ALL have to learn how to do it prior to driving. And his wife had to use a
'crank style' telephone, therefore we ALL should have to master that
technology PRIOR to using a cell-phone just because they did.
Additionally,
we should ALL have to learn the computer language known as 'Basic' or
'Fortran' PRIOR to using a PC because I and so many others had to learn
it.
And EVERYONE should be required to learn an antiquated mode known as CW
before they get on HF because some 18th century guy invented it. Either
catch-up with the times, or get the HELL out of the way! Like it or not,
CW is TOAST!




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Time to add a few comments to this tread...

My personal feeling is one way to turn Ham Radio around is to make it
into a Sport (like it has become anyway). Yes Contesting is a Sport so
why not push this aspect more than anything. Yes CW Contesting takes
skill that needs to be learned just like any other Sport and takes
practice and more practice. Good Phone Contesting also take skill and
practice. So I believe we need to take this to the schools, get it set
up as an extra curriculum, get scholarships set up for college, etc......

This could be the future of Ham radio or at least for the HF bands.

In article , Ronald Oberloh wrote:
Time to add a few comments to this tread...

My personal feeling is one way to turn Ham Radio around is to make it
into a Sport (like it has become anyway). Yes Contesting is a Sport so
why not push this aspect more than anything. Yes CW Contesting takes
skill that needs to be learned just like any other Sport and takes
practice and more practice. Good Phone Contesting also take skill and
practice. So I believe we need to take this to the schools, get it set
up as an extra curriculum, get scholarships set up for college, etc......

This could be the future of Ham radio or at least for the HF bands.

can we start by hunting down and shooting all QRO ops? that's the kind
of sport most QRP ops would like!

:-)