Mark,you are so wrong.
Im on 6 for "almost two decades"and dont have nor want code even tho i know
it from sonar and signalmans schools.
It is JUST a mode.It is JUST a hobby.
CBers dont migrate to ham.
If hams want to perform emergency work,why not let more of us nice no-coders
into HF?
We already have proven ourselves.
"MOVE AHEAD"

wrote in message
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Eventually, in the not to distant future, the CW subbands will be the only
real amateur radio for us pre- no code operators.... the rest will just be
multi-band CB.... full of foul language and name-calling (much like
newsgroups and 75 meters). If they ever do away with the CW subbands, that
will be the end of HF for me, I'll stay on 6. From what I've seen, that
band
requires skill and patience, something that the code-hater types don't
have....

W4UDX

"Noon-Air" wrote in message
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"VE3PMK" wrote in message
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I agree completely with the 'toll gate' reference.

Simply 'wanting' to be a ham (and having a VISA card) should not be
enough.
Have a listen around the 26MHz to 28MHz for both the legal and out of
band
CB operators. Do you want the ham spectrum to sound like that?? I
certainly
don't. I don't think many of us wish to hear echoplexed microphones on
HF
nor our repeaters. (and yes, I host a repeater.) Do all CB users
operate
like that? Certainly not! Back then, I certainly did not, and yes, all
through high school myself and my now 'ham' buddies all had CBs.

We don't want simply 'more' hams. We certainly don't need an influx of
lids
QRMing the bands to a state of being unusable, heavens knows we have
enough
already. I wanted to be a ham for years, and after putting in some
effort,
studying a few times a week, and yes, practicing code on W1AW every
night
it
was receivable, I got my ticket. It makes you appreciate something
when
you
have to work for it, even if it's just a little effort. Now before I
get
flamed to pieces here speaking up in defense of CW, remember, I'm not
saying
anyone MUST use code, but having a few technical hurdles to cross
makes
for
a better ham population on the other end.

Someone wants to get on HF without a code requirement? I'm sure most
hams
would not mind that if there was a suitably challenging technical
requirement to replace it.

There's my two cents, and thanks to all you hams who operate keeping
others
in mind. It's a pleasure to share the spectrum with all of you.

Pat, VE3PMK

I concur....thanx for saying it better than I ever could.

n6ojn
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