"MNS" wrote in message
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I've lost track of this BPL stuff.. What/who prompted this idea? Is there
"anyone" trying to fight it's approval? Exactly what modes of operation
"may" be affected exactly? I've heard "low band VHF". Does anyone have a
website perhaps aside from the FCC's to read which describes in detail
perhaps who can use this, requirements to do so, where - if any
limitations,
etc.

BPL will affect frequecies between 1.8 and 75 MHz directly. Many countries
have experimented with it, and dropped it entirely because if intereference
to other services. See the ARRL website (www.arrl.org) for links to various
articles and such on BPL. Also see www.qrz.com.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"MNS" wrote in message
...
I've lost track of this BPL stuff.. What/who prompted this idea? Is
there
"anyone" trying to fight it's approval? Exactly what modes of operation
"may" be affected exactly? I've heard "low band VHF". Does anyone have a
website perhaps aside from the FCC's to read which describes in detail
perhaps who can use this, requirements to do so, where - if any
limitations,
etc.

BPL will affect frequecies between 1.8 and 75 MHz directly. Many countries
have experimented with it, and dropped it entirely because if
intereference
to other services. See the ARRL website (www.arrl.org) for links to
various
articles and such on BPL. Also see www.qrz.com.



Thank you... So I guess the question begs to be asked, if all of them other
countries tried it and it failed, then why the hell are we trying to do the
same thing? Talk about a huge waste of money and effort! Sheeesh.... Come to
think of it, let me ask, and I'm probably right in this guess... Was Japan
one of those countries? And was it anywhere near the 70s perhaps? Seems to
me now that I think about it, I did read an article of some power
experiments back then in like Popular Science or Electronics or something.
Thinking more and more of this, I can surely understand how much of a pain
this may be. Thanks again, I appreciate it. This may get interesting to say
the least. MNS

"MNS" wrote in message
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"MNS" wrote in message
...
I've lost track of this BPL stuff.. What/who prompted this idea? Is
there
"anyone" trying to fight it's approval? Exactly what modes of
operation
"may" be affected exactly? I've heard "low band VHF". Does anyone have
a
website perhaps aside from the FCC's to read which describes in detail
perhaps who can use this, requirements to do so, where - if any
limitations,
etc.

BPL will affect frequecies between 1.8 and 75 MHz directly. Many
countries
have experimented with it, and dropped it entirely because if
intereference
to other services. See the ARRL website (www.arrl.org) for links to
various
articles and such on BPL. Also see www.qrz.com.



Thank you... So I guess the question begs to be asked, if all of them
other
countries tried it and it failed, then why the hell are we trying to do
the
same thing? Talk about a huge waste of money and effort! Sheeesh.... Come
to
think of it, let me ask, and I'm probably right in this guess... Was Japan
one of those countries? And was it anywhere near the 70s perhaps? Seems to
me now that I think about it, I did read an article of some power
experiments back then in like Popular Science or Electronics or something.
Thinking more and more of this, I can surely understand how much of a pain
this may be. Thanks again, I appreciate it. This may get interesting to
say
the least. MNS

To answer the first question, it's the $$$.. power companies and internet
providers lobbied the FCC for this boondoggle, and M. Powell is bending over
backward to accommodate big business (this is no secret, every single vote
the FCC has taken has been in favor of big business, and to hell with the
consumer.

Second question, yes, one of those countries is Japan, and it has been very
recent. Originally, they tried placing band traps for the ham bands because
the hams had been complaining heavily of interference, but that did not
work, so they decided to scrap it altogether (JA hams are only allowed
either 50 or 100 watts PEP/CW, so comms are much more difficult than in the
US with our 1500WPEP).

The tests done by ARRL labs and independent labs were based upon a distance
(IIRC) of about 10 meters from a line.. but if they put this in, you will
never be 10m from a source..

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"MNS" wrote in message
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"MNS" wrote in message
...
I've lost track of this BPL stuff.. What/who prompted this idea? Is
there
"anyone" trying to fight it's approval? Exactly what modes of
operation
"may" be affected exactly? I've heard "low band VHF". Does anyone
have
a
website perhaps aside from the FCC's to read which describes in
detail
perhaps who can use this, requirements to do so, where - if any
limitations,
etc.

BPL will affect frequecies between 1.8 and 75 MHz directly. Many
countries
have experimented with it, and dropped it entirely because if
intereference
to other services. See the ARRL website (www.arrl.org) for links to
various
articles and such on BPL. Also see www.qrz.com.



Thank you... So I guess the question begs to be asked, if all of them
other
countries tried it and it failed, then why the hell are we trying to do
the
same thing? Talk about a huge waste of money and effort! Sheeesh....
Come
to
think of it, let me ask, and I'm probably right in this guess... Was
Japan
one of those countries? And was it anywhere near the 70s perhaps? Seems
to
me now that I think about it, I did read an article of some power
experiments back then in like Popular Science or Electronics or
something.
Thinking more and more of this, I can surely understand how much of a
pain
this may be. Thanks again, I appreciate it. This may get interesting to
say
the least. MNS

To answer the first question, it's the $$$.. power companies and internet
providers lobbied the FCC for this boondoggle, and M. Powell is bending
over
backward to accommodate big business (this is no secret, every single vote
the FCC has taken has been in favor of big business, and to hell with the
consumer.

Second question, yes, one of those countries is Japan, and it has been
very
recent. Originally, they tried placing band traps for the ham bands
because
the hams had been complaining heavily of interference, but that did not
work, so they decided to scrap it altogether (JA hams are only allowed
either 50 or 100 watts PEP/CW, so comms are much more difficult than in
the
US with our 1500WPEP).

The tests done by ARRL labs and independent labs were based upon a
distance
(IIRC) of about 10 meters from a line.. but if they put this in, you will
never be 10m from a source..




Well it is more recent than I was thinking back to. Thank you for that. I
really appreciate it. Maybe that is why there has been some shuffling of the
deck there. Some opposed to it or the way it was being done. Very
interesting. MNS

Brenda Ann wrote:


To answer the first question, it's the $$$.. power companies and internet
providers lobbied the FCC for this boondoggle, and M. Powell is bending over
backward to accommodate big business (this is no secret, every single vote
the FCC has taken has been in favor of big business, and to hell with the
consumer.

Will we be suprised if/when BPL gets rolling and bringing in the big
bucks to see Mr. Powell and/or other top FCC officials, leave the FCC
for a cushy job at an outrageous salary at some BPL involved company as
a thank you for pushing BPL through? I think not.

.. Come to think of it, let me ask, and I'm probably
right in this guess... Was Japan one of those countries? And was it
anywhere near the 70s perhaps? Seems to me now that I think about it,
I did read an article of some power experiments back then in like
Popular Science or Electronics or something. Thinking more and more of
this, I can surely understand how much of a pain this may be. Thanks
again, I appreciate it. This may get interesting to say the least. MNS



Everything you want to know about the BPL issue can be found at:

http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/

... this includes the recent decision by Japan not to implement...
along with several other countries.


Ed WB6SAT

"Ed G" wrote in message
48.75...
. Come to think of it, let me ask, and I'm probably
right in this guess... Was Japan one of those countries? And was it
anywhere near the 70s perhaps? Seems to me now that I think about it,
I did read an article of some power experiments back then in like
Popular Science or Electronics or something. Thinking more and more of
this, I can surely understand how much of a pain this may be. Thanks
again, I appreciate it. This may get interesting to say the least. MNS



Everything you want to know about the BPL issue can be found at:

http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/

... this includes the recent decision by Japan not to implement...
along with several other countries.


Ed WB6SAT



Thank you as well for your input. I shall look it up. MNS

because that ignorant ****** powell wants it to be.



MNS wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"MNS" wrote in message
...
I've lost track of this BPL stuff.. What/who prompted this idea? Is
there
"anyone" trying to fight it's approval? Exactly what modes of operation
"may" be affected exactly? I've heard "low band VHF". Does anyone have a
website perhaps aside from the FCC's to read which describes in detail
perhaps who can use this, requirements to do so, where - if any
limitations,
etc.

BPL will affect frequecies between 1.8 and 75 MHz directly. Many countries
have experimented with it, and dropped it entirely because if
intereference
to other services. See the ARRL website (www.arrl.org) for links to
various
articles and such on BPL. Also see www.qrz.com.



Thank you... So I guess the question begs to be asked, if all of them other
countries tried it and it failed, then why the hell are we trying to do the
same thing? Talk about a huge waste of money and effort! Sheeesh.... Come to
think of it, let me ask, and I'm probably right in this guess... Was Japan
one of those countries? And was it anywhere near the 70s perhaps? Seems to
me now that I think about it, I did read an article of some power
experiments back then in like Popular Science or Electronics or something.
Thinking more and more of this, I can surely understand how much of a pain
this may be. Thanks again, I appreciate it. This may get interesting to say
the least. MNS