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Talking with a couple of other repeater groups and my own opinion is the
board of the SERA overstepped its bounds by not asking for a pole of
repeater owners. As one of the people that keep up a repeater I do not
like
the tone requirement. I had to put a tone requirement on for a while
because of some paging transmitter that had a spur on the repeater input
and
it took a while to get that thing off the air.

If they were going to require a tone , it should have been one of two
tones.
One for the 30 khz splits and another for the 15 kc splits. That would
eliminate the need to try to find a tone for a repeater for travelers.

The transceivers have had tone boards in them for so long that if you are
using a rig that old you should get a new one :-)
I don' t think that the cost should be an argument against the
requirement.

I have been involved with the repeaters for over 25 years incase anyone
cares about my background with the repeater systems.

de KU4PT


I can see plus and negative aspects of pl tone on ham machines. One of the
major negatives is for the travelers.. Ever try to program a rig while
mobile?

Dan/W4NTI

I can see plus and negative aspects of pl tone on ham machines. One
of the major negatives is for the travelers.. Ever try to program a
rig while mobile?

No, as that is not safe. I would assume that one had to look up the
frequency of the repeaters at some point prior to driving. That would be
the time to put it in your radio, along with the associated CTCSS
programming.


Ed K7AAT

I guess you'd have to actually pull over and program the radio....


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Talking with a couple of other repeater groups and my own opinion is the
board of the SERA overstepped its bounds by not asking for a pole of
repeater owners. As one of the people that keep up a repeater I do not
like
the tone requirement. I had to put a tone requirement on for a while
because of some paging transmitter that had a spur on the repeater input
and
it took a while to get that thing off the air.

If they were going to require a tone , it should have been one of two
tones.
One for the 30 khz splits and another for the 15 kc splits. That would
eliminate the need to try to find a tone for a repeater for travelers.

The transceivers have had tone boards in them for so long that if you are
using a rig that old you should get a new one :-)
I don' t think that the cost should be an argument against the
requirement.

I have been involved with the repeaters for over 25 years incase anyone
cares about my background with the repeater systems.

de KU4PT


I can see plus and negative aspects of pl tone on ham machines. One of the
major negatives is for the travelers.. Ever try to program a rig while
mobile?

Dan/W4NTI

On 29 Aug 2004 14:59:55 -0700, (LJ) wrote:

I guess you'd have to actually pull over and program the radio....

Some areas (coastal Maine comes to mind) all of the repeaters use the
same tone frequency.

This helps the hams with older gear, where it is harder to change
tones, or even the ones who need to add on a tone board. Older gear is
still usable.

Obviously, this only helps with spurs and QRM from other services, not
interference from other repeaters, but it seems to work fine for that
area.

In an area with multiple repeaters close together, this won't help
much. I've run into issues when hiking on Mt. Monadnock (3200') in NH.
I tried calling in the Boston ARC repeater in Boston (which has a
tone), but also brought up a repeater on the same frequency in
Connecticut somewhere. I was the only one who could hear both sets of
hams, which led to a little confusion.

It makes sense to gravitate to more repeaters using tone, although it
would be good if a few stayed without, for emergencies and for hams
with older gear.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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