"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
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Eighty-four dollars ($84) doesn't really seem all that insane to me...
What
do you run, a tin can with string?


Something has changed on eBay. Earlier today, it showed several thousands
of dollars.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


"W4UDX" wrote in message
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I don't care how they spend their money, I just thought it was good for a
laugh. I guess anal people like yourself would not see the humor in it.
So
I
guess I have a problem with anal people.

"W4UDX" wrote in message
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Check out this insane bidding!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...keTra ck=true

Dee Flint wrote:

"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
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Eighty-four dollars ($84) doesn't really seem all that insane to me...
What
do you run, a tin can with string?



Something has changed on eBay. Earlier today, it showed several thousands
of dollars.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Hehe...looks like K7HBC pulled his $10,000.00 bid. See bottom of the page.
He apparently meant $100.00 and the gbp333(9) guy was bidding up against
that max. I wonder if gbp333(9) feels stoopid or happy (or both) right
about now?

-Bill

"Bill M" wrote in message
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Dee Flint wrote:

"PowerHouse Communications" wrote in message
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Eighty-four dollars ($84) doesn't really seem all that insane to me...
What
do you run, a tin can with string?



Something has changed on eBay. Earlier today, it showed several
thousands of dollars.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Hehe...looks like K7HBC pulled his $10,000.00 bid. See bottom of the
page.
He apparently meant $100.00 and the gbp333(9) guy was bidding up against
that max. I wonder if gbp333(9) feels stoopid or happy (or both) right
about now?

-Bill


That auction was very interesting, as I had never watched a bid retraction
in the bid history before. True, the bidding was up over $1000, and k7hbc
was still top bidder. Once he retracted his bid, the auction toppled down to
gbp333's last bid over somebody else, at a bit over $100. Interestingly, the
history of the bidding between those events just disappears from eBay!

I don't have much sympathy for either bidder. k7hbc took over 3 days to
figure out he "made a mistake" and retract his bid. He's damn lucky the
seller is letting him, since eBay TOS says a retraction based on a mistake
must be done quite rapidly. At minimum, he owes the seller a public apology
for creating a situation where many thought this was a fraudulent auction. I
think that if it takes you three days to figure out that you bid $10,000
instead of $100, you shouldn't be allowed to turn on a transmitter.

The other bidder may get his radio, since everyone now knows he was once
willing to go to $1000 for it! Why bother to bid against him, unless you
really, really HAVE to have it. Who knows? But one interesting thing is that
gpb333 has been on eBay for about 20 months, but he hasn't bothered to
reciprocate feedback for almost 18 months. Those kind of guys **** me off.

Ed
wb6wsn

Ed Price wrote:

really, really HAVE to have it. Who knows? But one interesting thing is
that gpb333 has been on eBay for about 20 months, but he hasn't bothered
to reciprocate feedback for almost 18 months. Those kind of guys **** me
off.

I haven't decided which is worse, guys that don't give feedback, or sellers
that wait to see what you give them before they give you feedback.

I recently bought an item, and the seller took 3 weeks to ship my item. He
came up with a cockeyed story about how paypal didn't notify him that I had
paid. (I paid the morning after the sale) The item was described as complete,
but it arrived poorly packed, and missing a major component. 1 day short of
a month from the end of auction until the item was in my hand.

The seller echoed my feedback, so I got what I gave him.... Yet as a buyer,
I did everything in a most proper way. Now my feedback says I am a late shipper,
even though I was a buyer!

The feedback system is seriously flawed. Each party shouldn't be able to tell
what the other party writes about them until everything is totally done.

-Chuck Harris

"Chuck Harris" wrote in message
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Ed Price wrote:

really, really HAVE to have it. Who knows? But one interesting thing is
that gpb333 has been on eBay for about 20 months, but he hasn't bothered
to reciprocate feedback for almost 18 months. Those kind of guys **** me
off.

I haven't decided which is worse, guys that don't give feedback, or
sellers
that wait to see what you give them before they give you feedback.

I recently bought an item, and the seller took 3 weeks to ship my item.
He
came up with a cockeyed story about how paypal didn't notify him that I
had
paid. (I paid the morning after the sale) The item was described as
complete,
but it arrived poorly packed, and missing a major component. 1 day short
of
a month from the end of auction until the item was in my hand.

The seller echoed my feedback, so I got what I gave him.... Yet as a
buyer,
I did everything in a most proper way. Now my feedback says I am a late
shipper,
even though I was a buyer!

The feedback system is seriously flawed. Each party shouldn't be able to
tell
what the other party writes about them until everything is totally done.


Well, maybe, but nobody says you have to take it at face value. I usually
dig through a few previous auctions of the seller to see if any interesting
patterns emerge. If I see any notable negatives I look at the buyer who left
them and then look at his record. Patterns of feedback abuse are often easy
to detect. Too, just because feedback is negative doesn't mean its truthful.
And of course, sometimes you just plain lose. But on the average, ebay
treats my OK.

Had a good one just today. I bought a piece of electronic equipment (B&W
distortion analyzer) from a guy who ran an antique shop. The BIN price was
$15, and in the photos the thing looked flawless. I took the BIN. Sent in
payment via Paypal immediately. 10 days and 3 emails later, no communication
from the seller. I send the 4th e-mail, and 15 minutes later the thing shows
up, beautifully packaged. I open it up and the thing is absolutely flawless,
perfect cosmetics, working and in calibration. STILL haven't received any
communication from the seller, not that it matters at this point. What
feedback do you give? A perfect product and a perfect transaction with
absolutely NO communication...I can't say that shipment was speedy, although
I can't say that it was slow. It's not the way I prefer to do business, but
it worked and I got more than I had hoped for.

Sometimes it's best just to cool it. Go into an auction understanding that
little things WILL be wrong. Bid accordingly. Ask lots of questions and
judge the seller by his responses.

A great one I have started to see is "Positive" feedback with negative
written comments!

Having so many buyers and sellers with 100% positive feedback reminds me of
Garrison Keillor's line; "where all the children are above average."

BFoelsch wrote:

Sometimes it's best just to cool it. Go into an auction understanding that
little things WILL be wrong. Bid accordingly. Ask lots of questions and
judge the seller by his responses.

A great one I have started to see is "Positive" feedback with negative
written comments!

These "positives" come about out of fear that the seller will trash the
buyer if he gives him a negative feedback. In my case, I gave the seller
a positive that said it took 3 weeks to ship. So I now have the same
feedback sitting in my list... yet I was the buyer, and paid the morning
after the sale.

EBay should keep the feedback blind until both parties have submitted their
feedback. Each party should be forced to submit feedback. As it now stands,
if you say anything worse than a "Highly recommend!!! AAAAAAAA++++++++",
you will get trashed by the seller, and you will have no recourse.


Having so many buyers and sellers with 100% positive feedback reminds me of
Garrison Keillor's line; "where all the children are above average."

Indeed!

-Chuck

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:35:14 -0500, "Dee Flint"
wrote:

Something has changed on eBay. Earlier today, it showed several thousands
of dollars.

The high bidder retracted his bid

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5740462346

Smells of a scam to me.
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