wrote:
wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote in
:

There was recently a thread here on the subject of whether morse had
saved any lives recently. Well it has in the UK!

Have a look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/6070444.stm

"Torch used in Morse code rescue.

Coastguards in Hampshire have rescued a sailor who used his torch to
flash an SOS message in Morse code."

Ian.

Boy, Lenny Anderson is going to be ****ed. That's not the sort
of CW news he likes to hear. Lucky for the sailor there was
still someone out there that knew code.

SC

Is it still Morse Code if the speed is measured in words per hour?

Imagine lighting and extinguishing a torch to send SOS.

In the UK, one of the common meanings of "torch" is what Americans call
a "flashlight".

I guess that's the difference between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals.

Bring your
lunch and fire extinguisher.

This may explain your confusion:

I happen to know the difference between flashlights and torches.
Cavemen carry torches.

In message .com,
writes

wrote:
wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote in
:

There was recently a thread here on the subject of whether morse had
saved any lives recently. Well it has in the UK!

Have a look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/6070444.stm

"Torch used in Morse code rescue.

Coastguards in Hampshire have rescued a sailor who used his torch to
flash an SOS message in Morse code."

Ian.

Boy, Lenny Anderson is going to be ****ed. That's not the sort
of CW news he likes to hear. Lucky for the sailor there was
still someone out there that knew code.

SC

Is it still Morse Code if the speed is measured in words per hour?

Imagine lighting and extinguishing a torch to send SOS.

In the UK, one of the common meanings of "torch" is what Americans call
a "flashlight".

I guess that's the difference between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals.

Bring your
lunch and fire extinguisher.

This may explain your confusion:

I happen to know the difference between flashlights and torches.
Cavemen carry torches.


Oops! I didn't spot that problem. I should realised that 'torch' would
cause confusion among you benighted Merkins. Being British, but having a
Merkin daughter-in-law, I am reasonably bilingual these days. It's very
interesting how the English language has diverged. However, be assured
that, in the UK, we have progressed to using flashlights and torches
interchangeably these days.
Ian.
--

Dee Flint wrote:
"JIMMIE" wrote in message
ps.com...

Slow Code wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote in
:

There was recently a thread here on the subject of whether morse had
saved any lives recently. Well it has in the UK!

Have a look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/6070444.stm

"Torch used in Morse code rescue.
Coastguards in Hampshire have rescued a sailor who used his torch to
flash an SOS message in Morse code."

Ian.


Boy, Lenny Anderson is going to be ****ed. That's not the sort
of CW news he likes to hear. Lucky for the sailor there was
still someone out there that knew code.

SC

I guess this means if you were in the tower others would die because
you cant recongnise a flashing light on a boat as a distrress call
unless its in morse.


Unless one does know the distress signal in Morse, why would anyone consider
that someone was signaling a problem. They could just as easily have
thought it was some kids goofing off.

Dee, N8UZE

Dee Flint wrote:
"JIMMIE" wrote in message
ps.com...

Slow Code wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote in
:

There was recently a thread here on the subject of whether morse had
saved any lives recently. Well it has in the UK!

Have a look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/6070444.stm

"Torch used in Morse code rescue.
Coastguards in Hampshire have rescued a sailor who used his torch to
flash an SOS message in Morse code."

Ian.


Boy, Lenny Anderson is going to be ****ed. That's not the sort
of CW news he likes to hear. Lucky for the sailor there was
still someone out there that knew code.

SC

I guess this means if you were in the tower others would die because
you cant recongnise a flashing light on a boat as a distrress call
unless its in morse.


Unless one does know the distress signal in Morse, why would anyone consider
that someone was signaling a problem. They could just as easily have
thought it was some kids goofing off.

Dee, N8UZE

Good thing you dont stand watch.

I haven't really been following this thread, so I'll assume it
originated by someone who thinks the code requirement (here in the USA)
should be removed from the license requirements. Personally, I don't
think it needs to be removed because with a little practice, anyone can
do 5 WPM. In fact, I recall a young man of about 5 years old getting his
license many years ago...it used to be written up in one of the chapters
of the ARRL handbook. If you don't want to learn code, we have the
Technician class license for that. Anyhow, where in the rules does it
say a ham is required to know code to possibly save a life one day?
It's just something they came up with to use in testing for a license.
From the FCC rules:

97.3 Definitions.
(a) The definitions of terms used in Part 97 a


(4) Amateur service. A radiocommunication service for the purpose of
self-training,
intercommunication and technical investigations carried out by amateurs,
that is,
duly authorized persons interested in radio technique solely with a
personal aim
and without pecuniary interest.


Unless one does know the distress signal in Morse, why would anyone consider
that someone was signaling a problem. They could just as easily have
thought it was some kids goofing off.

Dee, N8UZE


Good thing you dont stand watch.

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message .com,
writes

wrote:
wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote in
:

There was recently a thread here on the subject of whether morse
had
saved any lives recently. Well it has in the UK!

Have a look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/6070444.stm

"Torch used in Morse code rescue.

Coastguards in Hampshire have rescued a sailor who used his torch
to
flash an SOS message in Morse code."

Ian.

Boy, Lenny Anderson is going to be ****ed. That's not the sort
of CW news he likes to hear. Lucky for the sailor there was
still someone out there that knew code.

SC

Is it still Morse Code if the speed is measured in words per hour?

Imagine lighting and extinguishing a torch to send SOS.

In the UK, one of the common meanings of "torch" is what Americans call
a "flashlight".

I guess that's the difference between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals.

Bring your
lunch and fire extinguisher.

This may explain your confusion:

I happen to know the difference between flashlights and torches.
Cavemen carry torches.


Oops! I didn't spot that problem. I should realised that 'torch' would
cause confusion among you benighted Merkins. Being British, but having a
Merkin daughter-in-law, I am reasonably bilingual these days. It's very
interesting how the English language has diverged. However, be assured
that, in the UK, we have progressed to using flashlights and torches
interchangeably these days.
Ian.
--


One place I worked where we sometimes bid on jobs from the UK kept a list of
terms with the UK versus US definitions because of the differences in
terminology.

Dee, N8UZE

"JIMMIE" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dee Flint wrote:
"JIMMIE" wrote in message
ps.com...

Slow Code wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote in
:

There was recently a thread here on the subject of whether morse had
saved any lives recently. Well it has in the UK!

Have a look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/6070444.stm

"Torch used in Morse code rescue.
Coastguards in Hampshire have rescued a sailor who used his torch to
flash an SOS message in Morse code."

Ian.


Boy, Lenny Anderson is going to be ****ed. That's not the sort
of CW news he likes to hear. Lucky for the sailor there was
still someone out there that knew code.

SC

I guess this means if you were in the tower others would die because
you cant recongnise a flashing light on a boat as a distrress call
unless its in morse.


Unless one does know the distress signal in Morse, why would anyone
consider
that someone was signaling a problem. They could just as easily have
thought it was some kids goofing off.

Dee, N8UZE

Good thing you dont stand watch.

Since I know Morse code, it wouldn't be a problem. Just because a light is
being flashed, doesn't mean it is a distress signal. If I were standing
watch, I'd make sure that I was conversant with the various distress signals
that might be used.

Dee, N8UZE

"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
I haven't really been following this thread, so I'll assume it originated
by someone who thinks the code requirement (here in the USA) should be
removed from the license requirements. Personally, I don't think it needs
to be removed because with a little practice, anyone can do 5 WPM. In fact,
I recall a young man of about 5 years old getting his license many years
ago...it used to be written up in one of the chapters of the ARRL handbook.
If you don't want to learn code, we have the Technician class license for
that. Anyhow, where in the rules does it say a ham is required to know
code to possibly save a life one day? It's just something they came up with
to use in testing for a license.

[snip]

Personally I happen to believe it should be kept simply because it is one of
the basics of ham radio. Even if one never uses it after, it should be
learned at a basic (i.e. 5wpm) level. This later enables the individual to
later decide if they want to pursue it to a higher level. If they are not
required to learn the basic level, they may forever falsely believe that
code is too hard for them.

Dee, N8UZE

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message .com,
writes


wrote:

wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote in
:

There was recently a thread here on the subject of whether
morse had
saved any lives recently. Well it has in the UK!

Have a look at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/6070444.stm

"Torch used in Morse code rescue.

Coastguards in Hampshire have rescued a sailor who used his
torch to
flash an SOS message in Morse code."

Ian.

Boy, Lenny Anderson is going to be ****ed. That's not the sort
of CW news he likes to hear. Lucky for the sailor there was
still someone out there that knew code.

SC

Is it still Morse Code if the speed is measured in words per hour?

Imagine lighting and extinguishing a torch to send SOS.

In the UK, one of the common meanings of "torch" is what Americans call
a "flashlight".


I guess that's the difference between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals.

Bring your
lunch and fire extinguisher.

This may explain your confusion:


I happen to know the difference between flashlights and torches.
Cavemen carry torches.


Oops! I didn't spot that problem. I should realised that 'torch' would
cause confusion among you benighted Merkins. Being British, but having a
Merkin daughter-in-law, I am reasonably bilingual these days. It's very
interesting how the English language has diverged. However, be assured
that, in the UK, we have progressed to using flashlights and torches
interchangeably these days.
Ian.
Ian;

Remember what that great American statesmen Winston Churchill once
said" We are one people divided by a common language".

Dave N grandson of a Brit and a Scot

wrote:

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bull**** Maxwell equations are the true basis of Radio
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/


Ignoring the profanity [when profanity surfaces in a discussion it is evidence
that you are losing the argument], Maxwell's Equations are first of all NOT
Maxwell's equations. They are Heaviside's Equations [go do a rigorous check].

Secondly, the equations describe physics, not operating practice.

Thirdly, the equations and their understanding are not requirements for a
license. Most hams cannot perform the vector calculus or solve the second order
differential equations necessary to solve those equations [Many professional
broadcast engineers probably can't solve them either]. After 40+ years from my
EE degree I know I can't solve them without some refresher math courses.

Finally, increasing one's personal skills in the radio communications art and
technique for personal improvement, not $ gain, is the requirement for a ham
license, at least here in the USA.

Increasing personal skills ... does not mean becoming an appliance operator.