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Some years ago I read a magazine article on modifying a base-loaded CB
magnetic mount antenna for lower bands. These antennas have a coaxial
mount -- the bottom of the coil is grounded and the feed connection is
made to a tap on the coil. By rewinding the loading coil (more turns of
smaller wire) and properly connecting the tap you can get an antenna
that is resonant and provides a good match -- as I recall, the article
described doing this for bands as low as 40 meters.

I made one that worked well on 15 meters. I know it's not as efficient
as a bigger antenna, but it is easy to put it on a car roof for casual
operation and you can go under bridges that you'd have to detour around
with a full size antenna.

Does anyone remember this, can anyone send me a reference, or, better,
a photocopy of the article? It was probably in 73, it could also have
been in CQ or Ham Radio. Somewhere along the way I decided I just
couldn't save all my old magazines, they are all long gone mow.

73, Al, N1AW

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On 21 Nov 2006 11:15:13 -0800, Al, N1AW wrote:

Some years ago I read a magazine article on modifying a base-loaded CB
magnetic mount antenna for lower bands. These antennas have a coaxial
mount -- the bottom of the coil is grounded and the feed connection is
made to a tap on the coil. By rewinding the loading coil (more turns of
smaller wire) and properly connecting the tap you can get an antenna
that is resonant and provides a good match -- as I recall, the article
described doing this for bands as low as 40 meters.

I made one that worked well on 15 meters. I know it's not as efficient
as a bigger antenna, but it is easy to put it on a car roof for casual
operation and you can go under bridges that you'd have to detour around
with a full size antenna.

Does anyone remember this, can anyone send me a reference, or, better,
a photocopy of the article? It was probably in 73, it could also have
been in CQ or Ham Radio. Somewhere along the way I decided I just
couldn't save all my old magazines, they are all long gone mow.

73, Al, N1AW


Is this for a mobile antenna?
VE3JUA
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Eskay wrote:
Al, N1AW wrote:

Some years ago I read a magazine article on modifying a base-loaded CB
magnetic mount antenna for lower bands.

[snip]

Is this for a mobile antenna?


I guess I should have said so, yes, such antennas are meant for roof-
or trunk-mounting on a vehicle.

- Al

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Eskay wrote:
Al, N1AW wrote:

Some years ago I read a magazine article on modifying a base-loaded CB
magnetic mount antenna for lower bands.

[snip]

Is this for a mobile antenna?


I guess I should have said so, yes, such antennas are meant for roof-
or trunk-mounting on a vehicle.

- Al


Al -

There were a large number of articles during the 1970s on this subject (73,
CQ, Ham Radio magazines) -- as well as conversion of CB mobile whips to
2-meter 5/8 wave antennas.

Although a significant amount of information is electronics (Internet
accessible) -- there is also a considerable amount that is still available
through your local library. At best, you may find an electronic index of
the materials.

For example, Herb Freidman wrote a number of articles in Popular
Electronics, Electronics Illustrated as well as the amateur radio
journals -- yet I have to go through my local library's magazine and
periodicals request network -- to get reprints of his Electronics
Illustrated articles and materials.

w9gb


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I made 3 of these antennas many years ago - 10m,15m and 20m - and use
them almost daily. They are modified Radio Shack 5/8 wave base-loaded.
They work very well, and are only about 2 feet tall. It involved
re-wiring just the coil. I use a trunk-lip mount, but they also work
with a magnetic mount. I don't have the article anymore, but I believe
it was in QST (maybe around the mid-80's) .

Jeff

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"Al, N1AW" wrote in message
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Eskay wrote:
Al, N1AW wrote:

Some years ago I read a magazine article on modifying a base-loaded CB
magnetic mount antenna for lower bands.

[snip]

Is this for a mobile antenna?


I guess I should have said so, yes, such antennas are meant for roof-
or trunk-mounting on a vehicle.

- Al


Al -

There were a large number of articles during the 1970s on this subject (73,
CQ, Ham Radio magazines) -- as well as conversion of CB mobile whips to
2-meter 5/8 wave antennas.

Although a significant amount of information is electronics (Internet
accessible) -- there is also a considerable amount that is still available
through your local library. At best, you may find an electronic index of
the materials.

For example, Herb Freidman wrote a number of articles in Popular
Electronics, Electronics Illustrated as well as the amateur radio
journals -- yet I have to go through my local library's magazine and
periodicals request network -- to get reprints of his Electronics
Illustrated articles and materials.

w9gb




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Jeff L wrote:
I made 3 of these antennas many years ago - 10m,15m and 20m - and use
them almost daily. They are modified Radio Shack 5/8 wave base-loaded.
They work very well, and are only about 2 feet tall. It involved
re-wiring just the coil. I use a trunk-lip mount, but they also work
with a magnetic mount. I don't have the article anymore, but I believe
it was in QST (maybe around the mid-80's) .


Thanks Jeff! I'm pretty sure the article I was thinking of did not
come from QST. Seib, VE3JUA found and sent to me an article from 73,
Sept 91, pp. 26-28 titled "Economical Mobile HF Antenna" which is
probably the one I remembered.

I'd also like to find a copy of the QST article. I used to have a
complete collection of QST back to the 70's but that went away too, I
just couldn't continue to store all my old magazines. The ARRL website
allows a search for articles, but in most cases the article text can't
be retrieved. I found a number of possibilities, but I can't tell from
the titles if one of them is really the one you mentioned. If anyone on
the list can help to pin this down I'd appreciate it. At this point
it's not so much for the sake of the information, but just to be able
to properly give credit in an article I may write about some of my own
mobile antenna experiments.

Both the 73 article and the QST article you refer to mention modifying
new antennas from Radio Shack, in one case a CB antenna and in the
other case a 5/8 wave 2 meter antenna. Both of these types of antenna
typically use a coaxial base with a tapped loading coil, and so either
is a good starting point for a modification project. However, for me
the attractiveness of the technique is that it can also be used with
used CB antennas that can be found for just a dollar or two at
neighborhood tag sales. They are not as easy to find as they used to
be, but I'm sure there are still a lot of them in garages and attics.

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