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Old February 23rd 07, 11:07 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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art wrote:


Frank, choose your friends! Alpha and Beta were the first two letters
of the alphabet,


But nucleus and electron would be much clearer to the reader.

I do not wish to represent myself as a physicist.


Don't worry, you don't.

It is clear you don't know how electricity flows in a material.

Your example of the balls on the string is wrong. You state that under high
magnification the middle balls do not move. If this were to be true there
can be no energy transferred from one end to the other. This is a simple
example of elastic collisions and conservation of momentum. High school
physics covers this material.

Your concept of electrons leaving the surface and returning at anything
other than significantly elevated temperatures is fantasy.

You make the extention of Gauss' law to include time. However, from what I
know, Gauss' law applies to electroSTATICS. If this can extended to include
time, and you are the first to observe this, then some sort of rigorous
proof would be appropriate.

You might want to look at a basic book on electromechanics. You need a
better grasp of the fundamentals


This has been mildly, but sadly, amusing. However contorted the actual
antenna might be, the obvious problem is in the premise that somehow
Gauss' Law has been overlooked in the past.

To keep it simple, Gauss' Law is precisely one of the four standard
Maxwell Equations. Gauss' Law has been part of electromagnetics and
antenna theory for eons.

As for electromechanics, who knows?

73,
Gene
W4SZ
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On Feb 23, 3:07 pm, Gene Fuller wrote:
craigm wrote:
art wrote:


Frank, choose your friends! Alpha and Beta were the first two letters
of the alphabet,


But nucleus and electron would be much clearer to the reader.


I do not wish to represent myself as a physicist.


Don't worry, you don't.


It is clear you don't know how electricity flows in a material.


Your example of the balls on the string is wrong. You state that under high
magnification the middle balls do not move. If this were to be true there
can be no energy transferred from one end to the other. This is a simple
example of elastic collisions and conservation of momentum. High school
physics covers this material.


Your concept of electrons leaving the surface and returning at anything
other than significantly elevated temperatures is fantasy.


You make the extention of Gauss' law to include time. However, from what I
know, Gauss' law applies to electroSTATICS. If this can extended to include
time, and you are the first to observe this, then some sort of rigorous
proof would be appropriate.


You might want to look at a basic book on electromechanics. You need a
better grasp of the fundamentals


This has been mildly, but sadly, amusing. However contorted the actual
antenna might be, the obvious problem is in the premise that somehow
Gauss' Law has been overlooked in the past.

To keep it simple, Gauss' Law is precisely one of the four standard
Maxwell Equations. Gauss' Law has been part of electromagnetics and
antenna theory for eons.

As for electromechanics, who knows?

73,
Gene
W4SZ




Every body knows that laws cannot be broken,but
nobody says they can't be bent.

Derek

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On 23 Feb, 15:07, Gene Fuller wrote:
craigm wrote:
art wrote:


Frank, choose your friends! Alpha and Beta were the first two letters
of the alphabet,


But nucleus and electron would be much clearer to the reader.


I do not wish to represent myself as a physicist.


Don't worry, you don't.


It is clear you don't know how electricity flows in a material.


Your example of the balls on the string is wrong. You state that under high
magnification the middle balls do not move. If this were to be true there
can be no energy transferred from one end to the other. This is a simple
example of elastic collisions and conservation of momentum. High school
physics covers this material.


Your concept of electrons leaving the surface and returning at anything
other than significantly elevated temperatures is fantasy.


You make the extention of Gauss' law to include time. However, from what I
know, Gauss' law applies to electroSTATICS. If this can extended to include
time, and you are the first to observe this, then some sort of rigorous
proof would be appropriate.


You might want to look at a basic book on electromechanics. You need a
better grasp of the fundamentals


This has been mildly, but sadly, amusing. However contorted the actual
antenna might be, the obvious problem is in the premise that somehow
Gauss' Law has been overlooked in the past.

To keep it simple, Gauss' Law is precisely one of the four standard
Maxwell Equations. Gauss' Law has been part of electromagnetics and
antenna theory for eons.

As for electromechanics, who knows?

73,
Gene
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Gene, forgive me if I am incorrect but I am going to assume you have
an engineering degree and are fully conversant with the work of the
masters. I f I am not correct then we can stop at this point Otherwise
I fully recommend that you check out the web foe a book on fields and
waves or something like that by a professor at Rutgers University. In
chapter 21 he delves very deeply into an array consisting of four
elements all of which are resonant.
Ofcourse he doesn't mention anything of mine but you will notice that
the array he chose is actually what I refer to as a Gaussian array
since it meets all the requirements that I have expoused on my page.
He doesn't use computor programs but basic mathematics to provide all
the desirables plus a radiation field. This array is really a
derivitation of one designed some 50 years ago and is the only one I
know that exists in literature. If you study this chapter and relate
it to what I am expousing then possible you will see things with fresh
eyes. But again if you are not fully educated in this field save your
self from the bother. I personaly have a program that if you isert any
fugure and tell it to obtain maximim gain I assure you it will not
produce a yagi but a gaussian array........ and I am thrilled with
that.
Nuff said
Art

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art wrote:



Gene, forgive me if I am incorrect but I am going to assume you have
an engineering degree and are fully conversant with the work of the
masters. I f I am not correct then we can stop at this point Otherwise
I fully recommend that you check out the web foe a book on fields and
waves or something like that by a professor at Rutgers University. In
chapter 21 he delves very deeply into an array consisting of four
elements all of which are resonant.


You really need to learn how to communicate your ideas. You don't know or
won't say the author or the title of the book, or you would just have us
guess.


Ofcourse he doesn't mention anything of mine but you will notice that
the array he chose is actually what I refer to as a Gaussian array
since it meets all the requirements that I have


that should be "had", the page is Gone.

expoused on my page.




He doesn't use computor programs but basic mathematics to provide all
the desirables plus a radiation field. This array is really a
derivitation of one designed some 50 years ago and is the only one I
know that exists in literature. If you study this chapter and relate
it to what I am expousing then possible you will see things with fresh
eyes. But again if you are not fully educated in this field save your
self from the bother. I personaly have a program that if you isert any
fugure and tell it to obtain maximim gain I assure you it will not
produce a yagi but a gaussian array........ and I am thrilled with
that.
Nuff said
Art


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On 23 Feb, 19:15, craigm wrote:
art wrote:

Gene, forgive me if I am incorrect but I am going to assume you have
an engineering degree and are fully conversant with the work of the
masters. I f I am not correct then we can stop at this point Otherwise
I fully recommend that you check out the web foe a book on fields and
waves or something like that by a professor at Rutgers University. In
chapter 21 he delves very deeply into an array consisting of four
elements all of which are resonant.


You really need to learn how to communicate your ideas. You don't know or
won't say the author or the title of the book, or you would just have us
guess.

Ofcourse he doesn't mention anything of mine but you will notice that
the array he chose is actually what I refer to as a Gaussian array
since it meets all the requirements that I have


that should be "had", the page is Gone.



expoused on my page.
He doesn't use computor programs but basic mathematics to provide all
the desirables plus a radiation field. This array is really a
derivitation of one designed some 50 years ago and is the only one I
know that exists in literature. If you study this chapter and relate
it to what I am expousing then possible you will see things with fresh
eyes. But again if you are not fully educated in this field save your
self from the bother. I personaly have a program that if you isert any
fugure and tell it to obtain maximim gain I assure you it will not
produce a yagi but a gaussian array........ and I am thrilled with
that.
Nuff said
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I am getting a bit tired of your demeanior to me, try being more
polite if you need assistance.
go to Google and put in the key words I gave you
ie Rutgers fields waves, now you know what to do in the future
instead of bitching
Art



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Gene, forgive me if I am incorrect but I am going to assume you have
an engineering degree and are fully conversant with the work of the
masters. I f I am not correct then we can stop at this point Otherwise
I fully recommend that you check out the web foe a book on fields and
waves or something like that by a professor at Rutgers University. In
chapter 21 he delves very deeply into an array consisting of four
elements all of which are resonant.


You really need to learn how to communicate your ideas. You don't know or
won't say the author or the title of the book, or you would just have us
guess.


Ofcourse he doesn't mention anything of mine but you will notice that
the array he chose is actually what I refer to as a Gaussian array
since it meets all the requirements that I have


Could this be the book?

http://www.ece.rutgers.edu/~orfanidi/ewa/


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On 24 Feb, 10:13, "Frank's"
wrote:
Gene, forgive me if I am incorrect but I am going to assume you have
an engineering degree and are fully conversant with the work of the
masters. I f I am not correct then we can stop at this point Otherwise
I fully recommend that you check out the web foe a book on fields and
waves or something like that by a professor at Rutgers University. In
chapter 21 he delves very deeply into an array consisting of four
elements all of which are resonant.


You really need to learn how to communicate your ideas. You don't know or
won't say the author or the title of the book, or you would just have us
guess.


Ofcourse he doesn't mention anything of mine but you will notice that
the array he chose is actually what I refer to as a Gaussian array
since it meets all the requirements that I have


Could this be the book?

http://www.ece.rutgers.edu/~orfanidi/ewa/- Hide quoted text -

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Yup.
The arrays are in simplistic form but will allow for free movement of
individual thought in line with my proposal.
Actually it is quite a good book on the subject of antennas but over
and above the level of the ARRL publications which will make it
frightening to most visitors to this newsgroup
Art

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ups.com...
On 24 Feb, 10:13, "Frank's"
wrote:
Gene, forgive me if I am incorrect but I am going to assume you have
an engineering degree and are fully conversant with the work of the
masters. I f I am not correct then we can stop at this point Otherwise
I fully recommend that you check out the web foe a book on fields and
waves or something like that by a professor at Rutgers University. In
chapter 21 he delves very deeply into an array consisting of four
elements all of which are resonant.


You really need to learn how to communicate your ideas. You don't know
or
won't say the author or the title of the book, or you would just have
us
guess.


Ofcourse he doesn't mention anything of mine but you will notice that
the array he chose is actually what I refer to as a Gaussian array
since it meets all the requirements that I have


Could this be the book?

http://www.ece.rutgers.edu/~orfanidi/ewa/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yup.
The arrays are in simplistic form but will allow for free movement of
individual thought in line with my proposal.
Actually it is quite a good book on the subject of antennas but over
and above the level of the ARRL publications which will make it
frightening to most visitors to this newsgroup
Art

looks like a relatively straight forward review of general electromagnetics
and antennas to me. just which chapter do you think shows your type of
antenna?? and why?


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On 24 Feb, 12:42, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

ups.com...



On 24 Feb, 10:13, "Frank's"
wrote:
Gene, forgive me if I am incorrect but I am going to assume you have
an engineering degree and are fully conversant with the work of the
masters. I f I am not correct then we can stop at this point Otherwise
I fully recommend that you check out the web foe a book on fields and
waves or something like that by a professor at Rutgers University. In
chapter 21 he delves very deeply into an array consisting of four
elements all of which are resonant.


You really need to learn how to communicate your ideas. You don't know
or
won't say the author or the title of the book, or you would just have
us
guess.


Ofcourse he doesn't mention anything of mine but you will notice that
the array he chose is actually what I refer to as a Gaussian array
since it meets all the requirements that I have


Could this be the book?


http://www.ece.rutgers.edu/~orfanidi/ewa/-Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yup.
The arrays are in simplistic form but will allow for free movement of
individual thought in line with my proposal.
Actually it is quite a good book on the subject of antennas but over
and above the level of the ARRL publications which will make it
frightening to most visitors to this newsgroup
Art


looks like a relatively straight forward review of general electromagnetics
and antennas to me. just which chapter do you think shows your type of
antenna?? and why?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


David, I do not work for you and I am not looking for employment
from you. Sometimes the World is tough and you have to do things for
yourself even if you are doing only what others have done before you
and got away with

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On Feb 23, 7:15 pm, craigm wrote:
art wrote:

Gene, forgive me if I am incorrect but I am going to assume you have
an engineering degree and are fully conversant with the work of the
masters. I f I am not correct then we can stop at this point Otherwise
I fully recommend that you check out the web foe a book on fields and
waves or something like that by a professor at Rutgers University. In
chapter 21 he delves very deeply into an array consisting of four
elements all of which are resonant.


You really need to learn how to communicate your ideas. You don't know or
won't say the author or the title of the book, or you would just have us
guess.


Sophocles Orfanidis
"Electromagnetic Waves and Antennas"
http://www.ece.rutgers.edu/~orfanidi/ewa/

Quite a handy resource.





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