On 4 May, 03:58, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

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On 3 May, 17:42, "Dave" wrote:
David,
When you started the group on the idea that you are not allowed to add
the unit of time to both sides of the gaussian equation for statics it
stopped all true consideration of the concept.
Even when shown the relationship by mathematics to Maxwell the group
dug deeper into a hole. When the group rejected these concepts there
is no point in trying to defend the concept in the face of un informed
comments such as yours. You have had a long run of calling me an idiot
so I am going to let time be my judge. There is no way I can duplicate
the massive stand of Cecil with over 300 postings in the face of such
abusive comments by the pseudo experts that abound in this group.
Have a happy day
Art KB9MZ......XG
snip
.. you insist on using NEC to calculate 'equilibrium', not
understanding that NEC uses exactly the maxwell equations that you don't
believe in.

Now you are making things up, I have not said that I don't believe in
Maxwells equations

and you throw about modified equations without any way of
proving they are correct.

And an independent person from M.I.T. a Doctor no less confirmed my
analysis as being consistent with Maxwells laws and went to great
lengths in supplying the mathematical route.

and you have this concept of a fictional surface

The arbitary border of a Gaussian field is generally stated as being
frictionless since it is a arbitary boundary that surrounds a mass in
equilibrium.Contrary to your statement equilibrium does not
necessarily mean coupling it means a balanced existence in a
gravitational field ( my words). Coupling means an mutual existence
inside a common field.
where the tranfer of energy occurres inside that common field. In
which case an equation cannot be made for a given space of time since
the exchange of energy continues to take place after the application
of energy has ceased.

where a magic transformation takes place with no way to define or defend it.

It is no magic transformation if one adds time to a conservative field
such that it becomes a non conservative field. If one wants reality
the unit of time must be present for a fantasy conservative field made
of static particles becomes a non conservative field with reality.

So far the only thing you have proven is that allowing optimizers to run on
randomly placed elements can result in gain.

The optimizer is based on proven Maxwellian laws not a figment of
imagination. It shows that
laws were in existence before Maxwell that were established by other
people whose thoughts
interlocked with other thoughts and data. Pointings vector is one of
these which shows all the same characteristics of my concepts that you
disdain in your last posting. Thus contrary to dismissing Maxwell I am
confirming the laws by an independent avenue.

And you have shown that if you
let it go far enough without logical constraints you get unrealizable
configurations.

I suppose that is posible to occur but it wasn't I that provided the
porported demonstration.

The whole basis of the concept is equilibrium and if a computor
program fails to conform with that position I would blame the human
content of the program and not nature.


Unfortunately a patent doesn't prove anything in this
country besides the fact that no one else has described exactly the same
thing, at least as far as an examiner can tell.

Very true, which in itself is not all that bad and Congress has not
abandoned that institution
for good reason. When a request is printed it invites experts in
radiation, such as you, to submit reasons as to why it should not be
granted. Why not give it a try, but use of the word "can't" alone will
not be seen as satisfactory. The institution is for those who use the
word of " can" which you seem to take delight in deriding which in
itself cannot prevent changes or prevent the advance of science.
Why not do something really constructive and help Frank with his
program? For the life of me
I do not understand why those familiar with NEC in this group aren't
helping the guy. Is he persona non grata or are all taking a delight
in seeing him struggle. If the NEC program determines something
different to what I supplied then the debate would be settled and the
truth will come out. Why would a group of antenna experts not give
assistance to a fellow ham in need? Is there something that you abhor
when a thread is stopped in its tracks without reaching the 400
postings mark? Is the exchange of insults the overiding factor in this
group?
( I know the answer to that!)

Art Unwin KB9MZ.......XG
Bloomington IL