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The following is an example of a gaussian array except that
only element height has been subjected to variation and not all
dimensions
A gaussian array is aimed towards resonant elements in cluster form.

Freq Gain dbi F/B F/B ave Zr Zi Swr Toa
BW
14.15 14.6 25.9 25.2 27.1 -5.7 1.34 12
63
14.2 14.6 29 28.2 27.5 -1.9 1.25 11
63
14.25 14.6 30.6 30.6 27.8 1.9 1.24 11
63
14.3 14.6 28.2 28 28 5.7 1.31 11
63
14.35 14.6 25.2 28.2 28.2 9.6 1.73 11
63

Dimensions
Cartesian, inches. Elements 1.3 in dia tapered

X Y Z
273.3 164.1 820
25.1 203.3 1079
171.1 202.1 582
321.6 178.4 1036.5
2.1 206.5 701.2
153.5 194.5 1038.1


Gaussian arrays are based on adding a unit of time to
Gaussian law of statics which allows for trensformation from
a Conservative field to a Non Coservative field with
conformance to Maxwell laws. Elements are
in cluster form where each element is aimed at resonance
as is the array is in its entirety. Element positions are not
constrained with respect to position or shape.
See Pointings Vector for similarities
Art

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oups.com...
The following is an example of a gaussian array except that
only element height has been subjected to variation and not all
dimensions
A gaussian array is aimed towards resonant elements in cluster form.

Freq Gain dbi F/B F/B ave Zr Zi Swr Toa
BW
14.15 14.6 25.9 25.2 27.1 -5.7 1.34 12
63
14.2 14.6 29 28.2 27.5 -1.9 1.25 11
63
14.25 14.6 30.6 30.6 27.8 1.9 1.24 11
63
14.3 14.6 28.2 28 28 5.7 1.31 11
63
14.35 14.6 25.2 28.2 28.2 9.6 1.73 11
63

Dimensions
Cartesian, inches. Elements 1.3 in dia tapered

X Y Z
273.3 164.1 820
25.1 203.3 1079
171.1 202.1 582
321.6 178.4 1036.5
2.1 206.5 701.2
153.5 194.5 1038.1


Gaussian arrays are based on adding a unit of time to
Gaussian law of statics which allows for trensformation from
a Conservative field to a Non Coservative field with
conformance to Maxwell laws. Elements are
in cluster form where each element is aimed at resonance
as is the array is in its entirety. Element positions are not
constrained with respect to position or shape.
See Pointings Vector for similarities
Art


NEC 4.1 Computes at 14.25 MHz:

Gain 6.3 dBi
F/B ratio 4.2 dB
TOA 11 deg.
Zin 107.9 + j 245.3

Code used as follows:

CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 2 21 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 181 1 1000 -90 90 1 1
EN

Where the coordinates are in inches. Please verify that
I have interpreted the coordinates correctly. I have
assumed the driven element is "GW 2", and fed in the
center. I have also used non tapered 0.13" diameter
6063-T832 aluminum alloy. Segment tapering is
allowed, but these dimensions have not been
specified. Our results appear to be significantly different.

73,

Frank


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On 3 May, 13:48, "Frank's"
wrote:
"art" wrote in message

oups.com...





The following is an example of a gaussian array except that
only element height has been subjected to variation and not all
dimensions
A gaussian array is aimed towards resonant elements in cluster form.


Freq Gain dbi F/B F/B ave Zr Zi Swr Toa
BW
14.15 14.6 25.9 25.2 27.1 -5.7 1.34 12
63
14.2 14.6 29 28.2 27.5 -1.9 1.25 11
63
14.25 14.6 30.6 30.6 27.8 1.9 1.24 11
63
14.3 14.6 28.2 28 28 5.7 1.31 11
63
14.35 14.6 25.2 28.2 28.2 9.6 1.73 11
63


Dimensions
Cartesian, inches. Elements 1.3 in dia tapered


X Y Z
273.3 164.1 820
25.1 203.3 1079
171.1 202.1 582
321.6 178.4 1036.5
2.1 206.5 701.2
153.5 194.5 1038.1


Gaussian arrays are based on adding a unit of time to
Gaussian law of statics which allows for trensformation from
a Conservative field to a Non Coservative field with
conformance to Maxwell laws. Elements are
in cluster form where each element is aimed at resonance
as is the array is in its entirety. Element positions are not
constrained with respect to position or shape.
See Pointings Vector for similarities
Art


NEC 4.1 Computes at 14.25 MHz:

Gain 6.3 dBi
F/B ratio 4.2 dB
TOA 11 deg.
Zin 107.9 + j 245.3

Code used as follows:

CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 2 21 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 181 1 1000 -90 90 1 1
EN

Where the coordinates are in inches. Please verify that
I have interpreted the coordinates correctly. I have
assumed the driven element is "GW 2", and fed in the
center. I have also used non tapered 0.13" diameter
6063-T832 aluminum alloy. Segment tapering is
allowed, but these dimensions have not been
specified. Our results appear to be significantly different.

73,

Frank- Hide quoted text -

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Hi Frank, I am not proficient with NEC2 so I can't help you with that.
I will add certain things in the hope things clear up for you.
Elements are 1.3 inches diameter and tapered. The element listing is
of one half of the array
with the otherside being a mirror image, all dimensions are in inches.
The last element listed
was center fed. Design was weighted for max gain then F/B then for
resistance feed.
Gain was set for horizontal polarisation. Normaly a Gaussian array has
every dimension listed as being variable but I decided for simplicity
to only vary the individual height of each element plus keeping them
parallel and not tilted so as to avoid confusion.Some designs come out
with some elements off center as well as not 1/2 wave based as well as
irregular shaped which would confuse those who are not fully familiar
with antenna theory. It is usual
to declare the polarity required instead of maximum gain so that
polarity purity can be pursued however, in such cases all dimensions
should be considered variable. If maximum bandwidth is required it is
also best to have all dimensions variable.If all dimensions are
variable you get the situation where all elements are resonant and
such designs are compatable with complex circuitry calculations. Note
that the salient curves with respect to bandwidth are in sync with
each other because of the absence of coupling and minimum reactance of
individual parts which prevents focussing as with a Yagi array. Can't
think of anything else I can add but don't hesitate with any follow up
questions if you have any either with the basic theory, concepts,
mathematics or the sample at hand.
Good luck
Art

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On 3 May, 13:48, "Frank's"
wrote:
"art" wrote in message

oups.com...





The following is an example of a gaussian array except that
only element height has been subjected to variation and not all
dimensions
A gaussian array is aimed towards resonant elements in cluster form.


Freq Gain dbi F/B F/B ave Zr Zi Swr Toa
BW
14.15 14.6 25.9 25.2 27.1 -5.7 1.34 12
63
14.2 14.6 29 28.2 27.5 -1.9 1.25 11
63
14.25 14.6 30.6 30.6 27.8 1.9 1.24 11
63
14.3 14.6 28.2 28 28 5.7 1.31 11
63
14.35 14.6 25.2 28.2 28.2 9.6 1.73 11
63


Dimensions
Cartesian, inches. Elements 1.3 in dia tapered


X Y Z
273.3 164.1 820
25.1 203.3 1079
171.1 202.1 582
321.6 178.4 1036.5
2.1 206.5 701.2
153.5 194.5 1038.1


Gaussian arrays are based on adding a unit of time to
Gaussian law of statics which allows for trensformation from
a Conservative field to a Non Coservative field with
conformance to Maxwell laws. Elements are
in cluster form where each element is aimed at resonance
as is the array is in its entirety. Element positions are not
constrained with respect to position or shape.
See Pointings Vector for similarities
Art


NEC 4.1 Computes at 14.25 MHz:

Gain 6.3 dBi
F/B ratio 4.2 dB
TOA 11 deg.
Zin 107.9 + j 245.3

Code used as follows:

CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 2 21 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 181 1 1000 -90 90 1 1
EN

Where the coordinates are in inches. Please verify that
I have interpreted the coordinates correctly. I have
assumed the driven element is "GW 2", and fed in the
center. I have also used non tapered 0.13" diameter
6063-T832 aluminum alloy. Segment tapering is
allowed, but these dimensions have not been
specified. Our results appear to be significantly different.

73,

Frank- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Frank,
Your comment about segment taper dimensions not being shown
I use tapered telescopic fibre glass fishing poles for elements(they
cannot fall apart only get tighter) and therefore segments do not come
into the equation. I adhere .002 inch aluminum foil to the exterior
for conduction and place glass fibre tape along the length if there is
a question of environment problems, tho ice easily slides down in the
absence of clamps. Also insert foam at ends to prevent occillation.
Note. It is sometimes convenient to insert solenoids wound on plastic
syringes within the elements to create a dual or multiband antenna
which would duplicate the IR antenna with respect to band coverage.
Aluminum has become so expensive and fishing poles so inexpensive that
if you are experimentaly minded the choice becomes obvious( see Ebay
for
poles) I also use scrap circuit boards as element to boom connections
since element weight is best kept down ( don't use my military rotor ,
prop pitch, anymore since antenna boom length and weight and torque
requirements is no longer a factor). It was wind sway on a 60 foot
boom that forced me to re think things tho I am not responsible for
all those windmills that have just been planted in Central Illinois
but they do emphasise my past predicaments.
Best regards
Art
factors are now a thing of the past.

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"art" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 3 May, 13:48, "Frank's"
wrote:
"art" wrote in message

oups.com...





The following is an example of a gaussian array except that
only element height has been subjected to variation and not all
dimensions
A gaussian array is aimed towards resonant elements in cluster form.


Freq Gain dbi F/B F/B ave Zr Zi Swr Toa
BW
14.15 14.6 25.9 25.2 27.1 -5.7 1.34 12
63
14.2 14.6 29 28.2 27.5 -1.9 1.25 11
63
14.25 14.6 30.6 30.6 27.8 1.9 1.24 11
63
14.3 14.6 28.2 28 28 5.7 1.31 11
63
14.35 14.6 25.2 28.2 28.2 9.6 1.73 11
63


Dimensions
Cartesian, inches. Elements 1.3 in dia tapered


X Y Z
273.3 164.1 820
25.1 203.3 1079
171.1 202.1 582
321.6 178.4 1036.5
2.1 206.5 701.2
153.5 194.5 1038.1


Gaussian arrays are based on adding a unit of time to
Gaussian law of statics which allows for trensformation from
a Conservative field to a Non Coservative field with
conformance to Maxwell laws. Elements are
in cluster form where each element is aimed at resonance
as is the array is in its entirety. Element positions are not
constrained with respect to position or shape.
See Pointings Vector for similarities
Art


NEC 4.1 Computes at 14.25 MHz:

Gain 6.3 dBi
F/B ratio 4.2 dB
TOA 11 deg.
Zin 107.9 + j 245.3

Code used as follows:

CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 2 21 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 181 1 1000 -90 90 1 1
EN

Where the coordinates are in inches. Please verify that
I have interpreted the coordinates correctly. I have
assumed the driven element is "GW 2", and fed in the
center. I have also used non tapered 0.13" diameter
6063-T832 aluminum alloy. Segment tapering is
allowed, but these dimensions have not been
specified. Our results appear to be significantly different.

73,

Frank- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hi Frank, I am not proficient with NEC2 so I can't help you with that.
I will add certain things in the hope things clear up for you.
Elements are 1.3 inches diameter and tapered. The element listing is
of one half of the array
with the otherside being a mirror image, all dimensions are in inches.
The last element listed
was center fed. Design was weighted for max gain then F/B then for
resistance feed.
Gain was set for horizontal polarisation. Normaly a Gaussian array has
every dimension listed as being variable but I decided for simplicity
to only vary the individual height of each element plus keeping them
parallel and not tilted so as to avoid confusion.Some designs come out
with some elements off center as well as not 1/2 wave based as well as
irregular shaped which would confuse those who are not fully familiar
with antenna theory. It is usual
to declare the polarity required instead of maximum gain so that
polarity purity can be pursued however, in such cases all dimensions
should be considered variable. If maximum bandwidth is required it is
also best to have all dimensions variable.If all dimensions are
variable you get the situation where all elements are resonant and
such designs are compatable with complex circuitry calculations. Note
that the salient curves with respect to bandwidth are in sync with
each other because of the absence of coupling and minimum reactance of
individual parts which prevents focussing as with a Yagi array. Can't
think of anything else I can add but don't hesitate with any follow up
questions if you have any either with the basic theory, concepts,
mathematics or the sample at hand.
Good luck
Art


you have one fed element and several un-fed ones... isn't that a parasitic
array? what are the currents in the other elements? how do those currents
come into being besides coupling between the elements?? How can you use NEC
to calculate 'gaussian' arrays that are in 'equilibrium' by your definition,
NEC assumes currents and coupling between the elements, there is no way to
change that... its part of the basic EM formulas that all antenna modeling
programs are based on!




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On 3 May, 17:42, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

oups.com...





On 3 May, 13:48, "Frank's"
wrote:
"art" wrote in message


groups.com...


The following is an example of a gaussian array except that
only element height has been subjected to variation and not all
dimensions
A gaussian array is aimed towards resonant elements in cluster form.


Freq Gain dbi F/B F/B ave Zr Zi Swr Toa
BW
14.15 14.6 25.9 25.2 27.1 -5.7 1.34 12
63
14.2 14.6 29 28.2 27.5 -1.9 1.25 11
63
14.25 14.6 30.6 30.6 27.8 1.9 1.24 11
63
14.3 14.6 28.2 28 28 5.7 1.31 11
63
14.35 14.6 25.2 28.2 28.2 9.6 1.73 11
63


Dimensions
Cartesian, inches. Elements 1.3 in dia tapered


X Y Z
273.3 164.1 820
25.1 203.3 1079
171.1 202.1 582
321.6 178.4 1036.5
2.1 206.5 701.2
153.5 194.5 1038.1


Gaussian arrays are based on adding a unit of time to
Gaussian law of statics which allows for trensformation from
a Conservative field to a Non Coservative field with
conformance to Maxwell laws. Elements are
in cluster form where each element is aimed at resonance
as is the array is in its entirety. Element positions are not
constrained with respect to position or shape.
See Pointings Vector for similarities
Art


NEC 4.1 Computes at 14.25 MHz:


Gain 6.3 dBi
F/B ratio 4.2 dB
TOA 11 deg.
Zin 107.9 + j 245.3


Code used as follows:


CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 2 21 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 181 1 1000 -90 90 1 1
EN


Where the coordinates are in inches. Please verify that
I have interpreted the coordinates correctly. I have
assumed the driven element is "GW 2", and fed in the
center. I have also used non tapered 0.13" diameter
6063-T832 aluminum alloy. Segment tapering is
allowed, but these dimensions have not been
specified. Our results appear to be significantly different.


73,


Frank- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hi Frank, I am not proficient with NEC2 so I can't help you with that.
I will add certain things in the hope things clear up for you.
Elements are 1.3 inches diameter and tapered. The element listing is
of one half of the array
with the otherside being a mirror image, all dimensions are in inches.
The last element listed
was center fed. Design was weighted for max gain then F/B then for
resistance feed.
Gain was set for horizontal polarisation. Normaly a Gaussian array has
every dimension listed as being variable but I decided for simplicity
to only vary the individual height of each element plus keeping them
parallel and not tilted so as to avoid confusion.Some designs come out
with some elements off center as well as not 1/2 wave based as well as
irregular shaped which would confuse those who are not fully familiar
with antenna theory. It is usual
to declare the polarity required instead of maximum gain so that
polarity purity can be pursued however, in such cases all dimensions
should be considered variable. If maximum bandwidth is required it is
also best to have all dimensions variable.If all dimensions are
variable you get the situation where all elements are resonant and
such designs are compatable with complex circuitry calculations. Note
that the salient curves with respect to bandwidth are in sync with
each other because of the absence of coupling and minimum reactance of
individual parts which prevents focussing as with a Yagi array. Can't
think of anything else I can add but don't hesitate with any follow up
questions if you have any either with the basic theory, concepts,
mathematics or the sample at hand.
Good luck
Art


you have one fed element and several un-fed ones... isn't that a parasitic
array? what are the currents in the other elements? how do those currents
come into being besides coupling between the elements?? How can you use NEC
to calculate 'gaussian' arrays that are in 'equilibrium' by your definition,
NEC assumes currents and coupling between the elements, there is no way to
change that... its part of the basic EM formulas that all antenna modeling
programs are based on!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


David,
When you started the group on the idea that you are not allowed to add
the unit of time to both sides of the gaussian equation for statics it
stopped all true consideration of the concept.
Even when shown the relationship by mathematics to Maxwell the group
dug deeper into a hole. When the group rejected these concepts there
is no point in trying to defend the concept in the face of un informed
comments such as yours. You have had a long run of calling me an idiot
so I am going to let time be my judge. There is no way I can duplicate
the massive stand of Cecil with over 300 postings in the face of such
abusive comments by the pseudo experts that abound in this group.
Have a happy day
Art KB9MZ......XG

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Frank,
Your comment about segment taper dimensions not being shown
I use tapered telescopic fibre glass fishing poles for elements(they
cannot fall apart only get tighter) and therefore segments do not come
into the equation. I adhere .002 inch aluminum foil to the exterior
for conduction and place glass fibre tape along the length if there is
a question of environment problems, tho ice easily slides down in the
absence of clamps. Also insert foam at ends to prevent occillation.
Note. It is sometimes convenient to insert solenoids wound on plastic
syringes within the elements to create a dual or multiband antenna
which would duplicate the IR antenna with respect to band coverage.
Aluminum has become so expensive and fishing poles so inexpensive that
if you are experimentaly minded the choice becomes obvious( see Ebay
for
poles) I also use scrap circuit boards as element to boom connections
since element weight is best kept down ( don't use my military rotor ,
prop pitch, anymore since antenna boom length and weight and torque
requirements is no longer a factor). It was wind sway on a 60 foot
boom that forced me to re think things tho I am not responsible for
all those windmills that have just been planted in Central Illinois
but they do emphasise my past predicaments.
Best regards
Art
factors are now a thing of the past.


Code modifies as shown below:

CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 3 16 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 1 361 1000 63 0 1 1
EN

Third element fed in the center.
NEC 4.1 Computes at 14.25 MHz:

Gain 5.4 dBi
F/B ratio 7.9 dB
TOA 27 deg.
Zin 66.8 - j 32.5

Max currents (1V peak applied to TAG 3):
TAG 1 0.0022 mA (peak)
TAG 2 0.0037 mA (peak)
TAG 3 0.0134 mA (peak).

Frank


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On 3 May, 18:23, "Frank's"
wrote:
Frank,
Your comment about segment taper dimensions not being shown
I use tapered telescopic fibre glass fishing poles for elements(they
cannot fall apart only get tighter) and therefore segments do not come
into the equation. I adhere .002 inch aluminum foil to the exterior
for conduction and place glass fibre tape along the length if there is
a question of environment problems, tho ice easily slides down in the
absence of clamps. Also insert foam at ends to prevent occillation.
Note. It is sometimes convenient to insert solenoids wound on plastic
syringes within the elements to create a dual or multiband antenna
which would duplicate the IR antenna with respect to band coverage.
Aluminum has become so expensive and fishing poles so inexpensive that
if you are experimentaly minded the choice becomes obvious( see Ebay
for
poles) I also use scrap circuit boards as element to boom connections
since element weight is best kept down ( don't use my military rotor ,
prop pitch, anymore since antenna boom length and weight and torque
requirements is no longer a factor). It was wind sway on a 60 foot
boom that forced me to re think things tho I am not responsible for
all those windmills that have just been planted in Central Illinois
but they do emphasise my past predicaments.
Best regards
Art
factors are now a thing of the past.


Code modifies as shown below:

CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 3 16 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 1 361 1000 63 0 1 1
EN

Third element fed in the center.
NEC 4.1 Computes at 14.25 MHz:

Gain 5.4 dBi
F/B ratio 7.9 dB
TOA 27 deg.
Zin 66.8 - j 32.5

Max currents (1V peak applied to TAG 3):
TAG 1 0.0022 mA (peak)
TAG 2 0.0037 mA (peak)
TAG 3 0.0134 mA (peak).

Frank- Hide quoted text -

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Frank,
I stated quite clearly that the elements stated had mirror images on
the other side of the antenna array so why are you only considering
only three elements? Remember, I stated that to simplify things I
have varied ONLY the height of the individual elements with respect
to each other. I have NOT introduced variance in length, diameter,
skew, material or any thing else which is required for the ultimate
Gaussian array i.e. For maximum effect all cartesian coordinates and
related dimensions must be variable to obtain the optimum condition of
equilibrium. For simplicity I have varied ONLY the height of
individual elements while holding to parallelism to each other and to
the earths surface .
ART

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Frank,
I stated quite clearly that the elements stated had mirror images on
the other side of the antenna array so why are you only considering
only three elements? Remember, I stated that to simplify things I
have varied ONLY the height of the individual elements with respect
to each other. I have NOT introduced variance in length, diameter,
skew, material or any thing else which is required for the ultimate
Gaussian array i.e. For maximum effect all cartesian coordinates and
related dimensions must be variable to obtain the optimum condition of
equilibrium. For simplicity I have varied ONLY the height of
individual elements while holding to parallelism to each other and to
the earths surface .
ART


Code mirrored across the X - Z plane:

CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GW 4 30 273.3 -164.1 820 25.1 -203.3 1079 0.65
GW 5 41 171.1 -202.1 582 321.6 -178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 6 31 2.1 -206.5 701.2 153.5 -194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 3 16 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 181 1 1000 -90 140 1 1
EN

Results:

Gain 6.8 dBi
F/B ratio 13.8 dB
TOA 11 deg.
Zin 78.4 - j 27.1

Frank

PS to interpret the GW card:

GW TAG# #segs. X1 Y1 Z1 X2 Y2 Z2 wire radius


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On 3 May, 19:17, "Frank's"
wrote:
Frank,
I stated quite clearly that the elements stated had mirror images on
the other side of the antenna array so why are you only considering
only three elements? Remember, I stated that to simplify things I
have varied ONLY the height of the individual elements with respect
to each other. I have NOT introduced variance in length, diameter,
skew, material or any thing else which is required for the ultimate
Gaussian array i.e. For maximum effect all cartesian coordinates and
related dimensions must be variable to obtain the optimum condition of
equilibrium. For simplicity I have varied ONLY the height of
individual elements while holding to parallelism to each other and to
the earths surface .
ART


Code mirrored across the X - Z plane:

CM Gaussian Array
CE
GW 1 30 273.3 164.1 820 25.1 203.3 1079 0.65
GW 2 41 171.1 202.1 582 321.6 178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 3 31 2.1 206.5 701.2 153.5 194.5 1038.1 0.65
GW 4 30 273.3 -164.1 820 25.1 -203.3 1079 0.65
GW 5 41 171.1 -202.1 582 321.6 -178.4 1036.5 0.65
GW 6 31 2.1 -206.5 701.2 153.5 -194.5 1038.1 0.65
GS 0 0 0.025400
GE 1 -1 0
GN 2 0 0 0 13.0000 0.0050
EX 0 3 16 0 1 0
FR 0 5 0 0 14.15 0.05
LD 5 0 0 0 3.08E7
RP 0 181 1 1000 -90 140 1 1
EN

Results:

Gain 6.8 dBi
F/B ratio 13.8 dB
TOA 11 deg.
Zin 78.4 - j 27.1

Frank

PS to interpret the GW card:

GW TAG# #segs. X1 Y1 Z1 X2 Y2 Z2 wire radius


Frank,
I can't help you anymore. I am assuming that your intentions are good
but as I said earlier I am not proficient or familiar enough with the
program you are using and heaven knows that I have taken a lot of
abuse over this concept. Tho this concept has brought forth the rath
of the pseudo experts that abound on this newsgroup I have never the
less applied for a utility
patent on the strength of my own convictions. So eventually it will
become printed matter
and time will tell if open minds outside this group will judge the
concept favorably.
Best regards and have a great day.
Art

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