Alfred Lorona wrote:
You can't get more energy out of anything than what you put in. You
can't create energy. You can only transform it from one form to another.

And, just what did you think I said?

You repeat me ...

Regards,
JS

Kanzius said he hasn't decided whether to share his fuel discovery
with
government or private business, though he'd prefer a federal grant to
develop it.

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In my nearly 7 decades of wandering about the surface of the earth,
statements like this have always been my indicator that the "inventor"
knows he is on shaky ground... And the epiphany that a big energy
company will just 'kill it' puts him firmly in the company of the 100
mpg carburetor inventors, that all those nasty corporations
suppress...
The Moeller Skycar, Ionized Water, Magnetic Fuel Conditioner, and
countless other 'inventions', fall into this catagory of interesting
ideas but not useable in the real world because they a
Economically a loser
Mechanically unstable
Just plain dangerous
Simply don't work
etc....

In this case he has come up with an interesting way to perform
electrolysis of water - I approve of anyone who likes RF!
The problem will be (as pointed out by others) is that it takes more
energy input than you get back as the hydrogen and oxygen
recombine... Another problem is that the H,O, Na, Cl are co-mingled
gasous products of the reaction which is not desireable when you want
separation for chemical or physical reasons... You can see by the
color of the flame that sodium is being heated..
Perhaps a use for this method of cracking hydrogen loose will be
found, but I have my doubts at the moment...

denny / k8do - cynic, critic, ham, old lab rat

Denny wrote:
Kanzius said he hasn't decided whether to share his fuel discovery
with
government or private business, though he'd prefer a federal grant to
develop it.
...

The problem is a simple one: Create an imbalanced system, such as
where, an uncorrected condition exists where the system is unstable,
leading it on to continuous "oscillations."

This idea is seen experimented with where people are doing research with
"magnetic motors." When the person said, "A picture is worth a thousand
words." This is most likely what he/she had in mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFGiWiXMHn0

Is that video real? Well, I am like you, and my mind says, "Probably NOT!"

Now, as to whether it is possible to set up such an imbalance to the
point where it is possible to extract excess energy from such a machines
operation? I just don't know, but it is something mankind could sure use!

Regards,
JS