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Roger (K8RI) wrote:

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Here is a link on the safety and desirability of hydrogen vs. gasoline:

http://www.hydrogenhighway.ca.gov/facts/einsafety.pdf

Hydrogen can be separated from oxygen with a simple plastic membrane,
the pores in this membrane are engineered to a size which will allow
hydrogen atoms to pass freely while blocking the oxygen atoms. The
oxygen "byproduct" is a sale-able one.

The only REAL concern is efficiency ... and as I have pointed out, an
over-unity or even a unity condition is not necessary for this method
(if it stands up to close scrutiny) to be an economically feasible
venture ...

Hydrogen is probably here to stay, it is only how we will produce it
that is in question. Pollution alone is enough to make us take its'
path. While "evil" smoking is in decline and been so for some time,
lung cancer continues to rise at an alarming rate. A search of the web
will convince you that all respiratory diseases are on the rise. While
they have done wonderful things to make exhaust odorless and invisible,
we are still breathing great quantities of it 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week, 4 weeks a month, 12 months a year, for our whole lives, with china
coming on line we are about to see real pollution rolling in on our west
coast, we then add our pollution to it and by the time it hits the east
coast--I pity the poor air breathers there ...

Monday, as you cruise to work, contemplate the river of vehicle exhaust
you are submerged in, the tens of
thousands/hundreds-of-thousands/millions/tens-of-millions/etc. of cubic
feet of toxic exhaust which is being spewed out before your path, for
miles and miles ahead ... you will begin to grasp the need and
importance of hydrogen ...

JS

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In article ,
John Smith I wrote:

Hydrogen can be separated from oxygen with a simple plastic membrane,
the pores in this membrane are engineered to a size which will allow
hydrogen atoms to pass freely while blocking the oxygen atoms. The
oxygen "byproduct" is a sale-able one.


You need to go back to High School Chemistry Class and relearn all
you missed about Hydrogen Oxygen Bonding, and the Energy required
to break those specific Chemical Bonds. It isn't going to happen
in a simple Plastic Membrane, especially without some form of external
energy input. Where do you guys come up with this stuff???
Idiots R Us???
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You wrote:

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You need to go back to High School Chemistry Class and relearn all
you missed about Hydrogen Oxygen Bonding, and the Energy required
to break those specific Chemical Bonds. It isn't going to happen
in a simple Plastic Membrane, especially without some form of external
energy input. Where do you guys come up with this stuff???
Idiots R Us???


You need to learn how to focus and digest written material in a sane,
logical and meaningful way.

Hydrogen gas can be separated from oxygen gas with the plastic membrane,
as stated.

What? Did you sudden get thirsty and focus on water, idiot!

JS
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In article ,
John Smith I wrote:

Hydrogen can be separated from oxygen with a simple plastic membrane,
the pores in this membrane are engineered to a size which will allow
hydrogen atoms to pass freely while blocking the oxygen atoms. The
oxygen "byproduct" is a sale-able one.


You need to go back to High School Chemistry Class and relearn all
you missed about Hydrogen Oxygen Bonding, and the Energy required
to break those specific Chemical Bonds. It isn't going to happen
in a simple Plastic Membrane, especially without some form of external
energy input. Where do you guys come up with this stuff???
Idiots R Us???


actually with what you quoted it is perfectly correct... in that quote he
isn't saying he's breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen, just
separating the atoms. a gaseous mixture of hydrogen and oxygen could be
separated this way.


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Dave wrote:

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actually with what you quoted it is perfectly correct... in that quote he
...


Yeah, it is always wise to pay attention to the previous post, that the
post in question is responding too ... that way you will appear as an
idiot less frequently ... you live, you learn ...

JS


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