On Jun 30, 10:14 am, "Porgy Tirebiter" wrote:
- "Radium" is a well known "Troll".
- When he runs low/out of meds and tin foil he will
- post this techo-babble crap all over usenet.
- Just add him to your killfile list.
- "Radium" is a "Throw-away"....a complete waste of time......

PT - Then why waste your time replying to his posts ?

IMHO - In another life "Radium" would have made
a great High School Science Teacher :
Who's Students when on to do great things with
their lives :
Because "Radium" Touched Them With A Thirst
For Knowledge And A Quest For Answers.

-but- These NewsGroups are NOT a High School
Science Class -and- "Radium" is just being 'radium'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium

-alas- Our "Radium's" Half-Life of Readable Interest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-life
is at best about 16.04 Seconds ~ RHF

RHF wrote:

...
Because "Radium" Touched Them With A Thirst
For Knowledge And A Quest For Answers.
...

I don't know, according to any instructor I have ever had respect for:
"There are NO stupid questions, only stupid people who are afraid to ask
questions."

Depends ... I guess.

JS

John Smith I hath wroth:

RHF wrote:
...
Because "Radium" Touched Them With A Thirst
For Knowledge And A Quest For Answers.
...

I don't know, according to any instructor I have ever had respect for:
"There are NO stupid questions, only stupid people who are afraid to ask
questions."

I beg to differ. My favorite mentor/instructor/employer had a
different philosophy regarding questions and answers. His line was
something like "If you don't understand the problem, no solution is
possible". His method was to concentrate on understanding the
problem, refining the corresponding questions, and only then
concentrating on finding the answer. I would spend much more time
thinking about "what problem am I trying to solve" instead of
blundering prematurely toward some potentially irrelevant solution.

My problem with the original question is that it fails to associate
itself with anything recognizable as a real problem to solve or a
theory to expound. In my never humble opinion, if there was a
question under all that rubbish, it was quite well hidden and severely
muddled. He also introduced a substantial number of "facts" that
varied from irrelevant to incoherent to just plain wrong. The problem
for us in not in finding the answer, but in decoding the question.

There may not be any stupid questions, but there seem to be a
substantial number of marginal people asking questions. I answer some
techy questions in alt.internet.wireless. What I see, all too often,
are people that seem to think that no effort on their part is
necessary to obtain an answer. They exert no effort to read the FAQ,
no effort to supply what problem they are trying to solve, and no
effort to supply what they have to work with. In this case, Mr Radium
has either exerted no effort to compose his question in a form that
can be answered, or if there was such an effort, it has failed
miserably. He couldn't even find a suitable collection of newsgroups
for his question.

There may not be any stupid questions, but there certainly are
questions not worth the time attempting to answer. If Mr Radium had
left the question at the subject line:
"AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on
an astronomically-low carrier frequency"
the question would have been easy to answer, as several people have
done. However, those that answered and I all did the same thing. We
extracted from the word salad question what we thought was something
resembling a coherent question, and ignored the rest of the rubbish.
In other words, we did the necessary simplification and problem
reduction, and discarded the bulk of the incoherent residue. There
may not be any stupid questions, but if you bury it under a sufficient
number of words, it may closely resemble a stupid question.

Depends ... I guess.
JS

Well, let's see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%22guess%28tm%29%22&as_uauthors=Jeff+L iebermann
533 guesses, out of about 16,000 postings, which I guess(tm) isn't all
that bad.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Jul 1, 11:11 am, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
John Smith I hath wroth:

RHF wrote:
...
Because "Radium" Touched Them With A Thirst
For Knowledge And A Quest For Answers.
...
I don't know, according to any instructor I have ever had respect for:
"There are NO stupid questions, only stupid people who are afraid to ask
questions."

I beg to differ. My favorite mentor/instructor/employer had a
different philosophy regarding questions and answers. His line was
something like "If you don't understand the problem, no solution is
possible". His method was to concentrate on understanding the
problem, refining the corresponding questions, and only then
concentrating on finding the answer. I would spend much more time
thinking about "what problem am I trying to solve" instead of
blundering prematurely toward some potentially irrelevant solution.

My problem with the original question is that it fails to associate
itself with anything recognizable as a real problem to solve or a
theory to expound. In my never humble opinion, if there was a
question under all that rubbish, it was quite well hidden and severely
muddled. He also introduced a substantial number of "facts" that
varied from irrelevant to incoherent to just plain wrong. The problem
for us in not in finding the answer, but in decoding the question.

There may not be any stupid questions, but there seem to be a
substantial number of marginal people asking questions. I answer some
techy questions in alt.internet.wireless. What I see, all too often,
are people that seem to think that no effort on their part is
necessary to obtain an answer. They exert no effort to read the FAQ,
no effort to supply what problem they are trying to solve, and no
effort to supply what they have to work with. In this case, Mr Radium
has either exerted no effort to compose his question in a form that
can be answered, or if there was such an effort, it has failed
miserably. He couldn't even find a suitable collection of newsgroups
for his question.

There may not be any stupid questions, but there certainly are
questions not worth the time attempting to answer. If Mr Radium had
left the question at the subject line:
"AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on
an astronomically-low carrier frequency"
the question would have been easy to answer, as several people have
done. However, those that answered and I all did the same thing. We
extracted from the word salad question what we thought was something
resembling a coherent question, and ignored the rest of the rubbish.
In other words, we did the necessary simplification and problem
reduction, and discarded the bulk of the incoherent residue. There
may not be any stupid questions, but if you bury it under a sufficient
number of words, it may closely resemble a stupid question.

Depends ... I guess.
JS

Well, let's see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=%22guess%28tm%29%22&as_uauthors=...
533 guesses, out of about 16,000 postings, which I guess(tm) isn't all
that bad.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

thankyou, for the wonderfully varied responses.

here's my question?

as one who simply asks the questions!

can fm waves ( any kind) PIGGY BACK ON AM WAVES?

THE IMPLICATIONS ARE FAR REACHING!!!!!!!!!

REMEBER AS OUR GREAT ANCESTORS SO ELOCENTLY PUT IT (PARAPHRASED)

WHEN CONSIDERING THE LIGHT BULB

" I FOUND 2000 NEW WAYS OF THINKING"

BUT THIS GREAT MAN DIDNT FINNISH UNTIL THE GOAL WAS REACHED

ADMIRABLE QUALITIES.

personally speaking, I have no formal or imformal education that can
match the depths of this scientific quorum.

I do have a vision

I hope to find new ways every day of connecting so i can get to the
beaches where the waves and the people think outside the box of normal
surfing and envision a whole new world metaphoricaly speaking.

Im a beach boys fan!!!!!!!!

hath wroth:

thankyou, for the wonderfully varied responses.

Please learn to operate a text editor and kindly trim the surplus
quotes from your ranting. I can't stand to read my own stuff twice.

can fm waves ( any kind) PIGGY BACK ON AM WAVES?

Sure. It's called QAM (quadrature amplitude muddlation). The
quadrature part is actually PM (phase modulation), which is a form of
FM (freak modulation). The amplitude also varies at the same time.
Look for the constellation diagrams. Which one is a pig on which back
is an open question.

personally speaking, I have no formal or imformal education that can
match the depths of this scientific quorum.

Yeah, it shows.

I do have a vision

Your vision is not 20-20. I suggest corrective glasses.

I hope to find new ways every day of connecting so i can get to the
beaches where the waves and the people think outside the box of normal
surfing and envision a whole new world metaphoricaly speaking.

Never mind thinking outside the box. Work on thinking in the first
place. Once you master that, you can worry whether it works better
inside or outside a box.

I guess it's true. Too much RF, or too much beach sun, causes
insanity.
--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:53:21 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

hath wroth:

thankyou, for the wonderfully varied responses.

Please learn to operate a text editor and kindly trim the surplus
quotes from your ranting. I can't stand to read my own stuff twice.

---
I can barely stomach it the _first_ time around!


--
JF

John Fields hath wroth:

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:53:21 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

hath wroth:

thankyou, for the wonderfully varied responses.

Please learn to operate a text editor and kindly trim the surplus
quotes from your ranting. I can't stand to read my own stuff twice.

I can barely stomach it the _first_ time around!

My rants have been accused of being all manner of things. However,
this is the first time they've been accused of being indigestible. If
your stomach can't take it, and you feel the need to regurgitate an
apparently involuntary one line response, I can offer a suitable
therapeutic regime. If you read my writings, rants, stories, humor,
and poetry in much smaller portions, you will eventually find my stuff
more agreeable. Given sufficient time, you will develop a tolerance
for my stuff. Incidentally, my writings are rather dry and might
require a few grains of salt to be considered tasteful.

If only they would pay my time,
to write this stuff in verse and rhyme.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558