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Default AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency


"Hein ten Horn" wrote in message
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Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
Hein ten Horn wrote:
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
Hein ten Horn wrote:


As a matter of fact the resulting force (the resultant) is
fully determining the change of the velocity (vector) of
the element.
The resulting force on our element is changing at the
frequency of 222 Hz, so the matter is vibrating at the
one and only 222 Hz.

Your idea of frequency is informal and leaves out
essential aspects of how physical systems work.

Nonsense. Mechanical oscillations are fully determined by
forces acting on the vibrating mass. Both mass and resulting force
determine the frequency. It's just a matter of applying the laws of
physics.


You don't know the laws of physics or how to apply them.


I'm not understood. So, back to basics.
Take a simple harmonic oscillation of a mass m, then
x(t) = A*sin(2*pi*f*t)
v(t) = d(x(t))/dt = 2*pi*f*A*cos(2*pi*f*t)
a(t) = d(v(t))/dt = -(2*pi*f)^2*A*sin(2*pi*f*t)
hence
a(t) = -(2*pi*f)^2*x(t)


Only for a single sinusoid.

and, applying Newton's second law,
Fres(t) = -m*(2*pi*f)^2*x(t)
or
f = ( -Fres(t) / m / x(t) )^0.5 / (2pi).


Only for a single sinusoid.
What if x(t) = sin(2pi f1 t) + sin(2pi f2 t)


So my statements above, in which we have
a relatively slow varying amplitude (4 Hz),
are fundamentally spoken valid.
Calling someone an idiot is a weak scientific argument.


Yes.
And so is "Nonsense." And so is your idea of
"the frequency".

Hard words break no bones, yet deflate creditability.

gr, Hein




 
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