Art wrote:
....for the same power expended in the same amount of
time a full wave radiator radiates twice the power that a
quarter wave does.
_________

So then where does the missing power applied to the 1/4-wave radiator go, if
only half of its input power is converted to EM radiation?

RF

"Richard Fry" wrote in message
...
Art wrote:
....for the same power expended in the same amount of
time a full wave radiator radiates twice the power that a
quarter wave does.
_________

So then where does the missing power applied to the 1/4-wave radiator go,
if only half of its input power is converted to EM radiation?

RF

i am convinced that art is playing dumb on purpose.... no one with any
knowledge of antennas and em fields could possible get this screwed up on
basic concepts. when he was just talking 'gaussian' and 'equilibrium' stuff
it could easily be laughed off as someone with a little bit of knowledge
trying to force the rest of the world into that single concept. but now
with decaying electrons and current down the center of the conductor and a
missing half cycle its just too far gone. i had been kind of tagging along
tweaking him into trying to explain the details of his concept, but now it
is apparent that he has none. he is just making it up and stringing us
along. you gone too far this time art, ciao and enjoy your game alone.

On 14 Oct, 15:11, "Dave" wrote:
"Richard Fry" wrote in message

...

Art wrote:
....for the same power expended in the same amount of
time a full wave radiator radiates twice the power that a
quarter wave does.
_________

So then where does the missing power applied to the 1/4-wave radiator go,
if only half of its input power is converted to EM radiation?

RF

i am convinced that art is playing dumb on purpose.... no one with any
knowledge of antennas and em fields could possible get this screwed up on
basic concepts. when he was just talking 'gaussian' and 'equilibrium' stuff
it could easily be laughed off as someone with a little bit of knowledge
trying to force the rest of the world into that single concept. but now
with decaying electrons and current down the center of the conductor and a
missing half cycle its just too far gone. i had been kind of tagging along
tweaking him into trying to explain the details of his concept, but now it
is apparent that he has none. he is just making it up and stringing us
along. you gone too far this time art, ciao and enjoy your game alone.

Awe common Dave don't go away this is fun! Now what is wrong with
current
going down the center because the impedance is less than 377 ohms?
Remember if you go up in altitude the 377 impedance will go down and
become
less that the wires internal impedance the energy will transfer to
space with
that smell of ozone. That is what happened in Quito Equador
That is what led to the design of the quad where a
lesser impedance path was provided for current flow!
Now the inner impedance of the wire must be pretty high to
create an end effect so with Isq R there has to be a lot of
heat generated. Remember Vincent saying his first antenna melted?
Now we come to rotation of a projectile.
Did you know that a projectile tumbles and comes under the influence
of the Corrioli effect as it losses energy.A shell
starts to tumble when it exceeds it's range Next time a rocket goes
into space watch for rotation. What do you think causes that?
A train speeds along on a railroad until at a certain speed
it will roll over, why do you think that happens?
Look up "hammer blow" for that one. How can
I possibly be stringing you along?
You can put everything to bed by spending
a 1/2 hour making a full wave antenna but ofcourse that
means an effort to get off the couch !
Yup
It is better to stay rested and let your mouth do
all the work at least until you start to dribble.
Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG

"Dave" wrote about Art's posts:
i am convinced that art is playing dumb on purpose.... no one with
any knowledge of antennas and em fields could possible get this
screwed up on basic concepts.

and Walt W2DU wrote:

I'm enjoying every minute of your entertainment presentations, and
I'd miss them dearly if you left the thread
___________

Art could really know better, and might be posting what he does as
some form of personal amusement.

The only problem with that is some readers of his posts may think
his posts are accurate, unless others who know they are not make
the effort to post the correct information.

RF