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Jim Kelley January 18th 08 10:39 PM

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Cecil Moore wrote:

Jim Kelley wrote:

Sure, assuming energy is being "used" to perform an operation in which
no work is done. You'll need to prove the first part of the sentence
in order to show the second part to be true.



Your ignorance is showing, Jim. It takes absolutely no work to
transform impedances because those impedances are virtual and
meet the IEEE Dictionary definition (B) for "impedance" which
requires zero work.


:-) No work means no power, and no ________. See if you can fill in
the blank.

ac6xg


John Smith January 19th 08 12:16 AM

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Cecil Moore wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0PI82Z...97E5D&index=37
It is titled: "Lecture-38-Phasor Form of Poynting Theorem" - enjoy!


Wow! I never thought I would ever see this information outside
of a university lecture. There are a number of these lectures
available. Anyone who is serious about this subject line should
avail themselves of the considerable technical knowledge contained
in these lectures.


Cecil:

Excellent! find ...

Thanks,
JS

John Smith January 19th 08 12:19 AM

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Michael Coslo wrote:

...
Amazing! I'm watching the time stamp on these missiles... erm..
missives, and you guys are almost in chat mode!

Respectfully, y'all ought to step back an catch yer collective breaths! ;^)

- 73 de Mike N3LI -


Yeah, I just bet.

But we are seeing the "mirror image" of that. It amazes us that someone
is so stupid as to use a usenet host which is slower than the postal system!

JS

John Smith January 19th 08 12:22 AM

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art wrote:

...

Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG( uk)


Sounds to me there is a "crack under the door" and the light coming
through is suggesting ether has NOT the properties of iron ...

Regards,
JS

Cecil Moore[_2_] January 19th 08 12:18 PM

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Jim Kelley wrote:
:-) No work means no power, ...


You are right, of course. I've been retired for a
decade now and forgot what work was. :-) Work can
have the dimensions of joules. Reflected power is
in joules/sec. The joules in the reflected wave
is equal to the reflected power times the length
of the transmission line in seconds.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Richard Harrison January 19th 08 03:14 PM

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Art wrote:
"When an inductance accepts such energy to generate its field one must
determine the material used to ascertain the true shape of the field."

Bunk! Broadcast arrays have the same pattern using either painted steel
towers or galvanized steel towers.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


Michael Coslo January 21st 08 09:04 PM

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John Smith wrote:

Yeah, I just bet.

But we are seeing the "mirror image" of that. It amazes us that someone
is so stupid as to use a usenet host which is slower than the postal
system!



Tis an amazing universe John, and so many amazing people in it......



- 73 de Mike N3LI -

art January 21st 08 09:38 PM

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On 19 Jan, 07:14, (Richard Harrison) wrote:
Art wrote:

"When an inductance accepts such energy to generate its field one must
determine the material used to ascertain the true shape of the field."

Bunk! Broadcast arrays have the same pattern using either painted steel
towers or galvanized steel towers.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


So you reject the magnetic field shape of a diamagnetic material
being deifferent from its steel counterpart?

John Smith January 21st 08 10:55 PM

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art wrote:

...
So you reject the magnetic field shape of a diamagnetic material
being deifferent from its steel counterpart?


I have heavy military 12 ft. SS whips, a magnet will stick to them ...

Regards,
JS

art January 21st 08 11:10 PM

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On 21 Jan, 14:55, John Smith wrote:
art wrote:
...
So you reject the magnetic field shape of a diamagnetic material
being deifferent from its steel counterpart?


I have heavy military 12 ft. SS whips, a magnet will stick to them ...

Regards,
JS


Then it is not fully efficient as a diamagnetic material.
You will note that the SS retains energy in its magnetic
condition via a hysteresis curve.
Art


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