Tom Donaly wrote:
Jimmie D wrote:
"Harry - SM0VPO" wrote in message
...
This newsgroup is the source of some of the best and knowledgeable
answers I have found on the net.

Unfortunately, it now seems to suffer the same malignant plague as
many others--disagreements decaying into personal insults.
The trouble with having a "heckler" out there responding with
megga-sarcasm and ridicule is that one feels duty bound to respond.
DONT. Let stupic and non-constructive postings go unanswered,
otherwise the escalate.


Just sounds like the usual bunch of guys BSing to me.

I will never forget the time I had a boss who tried to enforce civilness.

Jimmie


Do you mean "civility?"


Why would that be so hard to do anyhow? Employees who are not civil to
other employees "go someplace else" eventually.

Not a matter of enforcement, just a matter of slowly adjusting the
workplace. A few well placed letters in the offending employee's HR
file, and yer covered.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

Michael Coslo wrote:

...
Do you mean "civility?"


Why would that be so hard to do anyhow? Employees who are not civil
to other employees "go someplace else" eventually.

Not a matter of enforcement, just a matter of slowly adjusting the
workplace. A few well placed letters in the offending employee's HR
file, and yer covered.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

So that is how everyone eventually gets replaced and all the positions
end up filled by idiots? Darn, I missed that one 'till now.

Where is that manager? I want to lodge a complaint; All these
employees have gotten together and are running the place! Let's get
someone in here who knows something! ROFLOL

JS

John Smith wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:

...
Do you mean "civility?"


Why would that be so hard to do anyhow? Employees who are not
civil to other employees "go someplace else" eventually.

Not a matter of enforcement, just a matter of slowly adjusting the
workplace. A few well placed letters in the offending employee's HR
file, and yer covered.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

So that is how everyone eventually gets replaced and all the positions
end up filled by idiots? Darn, I missed that one 'till now.

In this modern world, too many people mistake good manners for weakness.
I've had to demonstrate the fallacy of that on occasion.

A person without good manners isn't equipped with all the tools needed
to be highly successful. Those without manners can become successful,
but it is in spite of those poor manners, not because of it.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

Michael Coslo wrote:

...
In this modern world, too many people mistake good manners for weakness.
I've had to demonstrate the fallacy of that on occasion.

A person without good manners isn't equipped with all the tools needed
to be highly successful. Those without manners can become successful,
but it is in spite of those poor manners, not because of it.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

Look, let me be honest here, when I walk into a place and
want/need/request something--I simply want it; if I find a nice person
able to fulfill that want/request--it is icing on the cake. But, just
give me my request!

What I keep running into in life are places where the employees are all
arranging the situation to "please" themselves (that usually means they
"get rid" of qualified individuals who are a "threat" to their job
position) with a great work environment and service sucks (indeed, I am
now ending up with "pleasant" a-holes in India/china/Malaysia on help
lines! This REALLY peeves me!)--it is a job, yanno? That is why they
call it "work!"

Now if both can be accomplished, great service AND a wonderful and
nurturing environment for "them"--GREAT! I can't be fooled--I KNOW THE
DIFFERENCE! :-D

Regards,
JS

On 15 Jan, 10:59, John Smith wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:
...
In this modern world, too many people mistake good manners for weakness.
I've had to demonstrate the fallacy of that on occasion.

A person without good manners isn't equipped with all the tools needed
to be highly successful. Those without manners can become successful,
but it is in spite of those poor manners, not because of it.

* * - 73 de Mike N3LI -

Look, let me be honest here, when I walk into a place and
want/need/request something--I simply want it; if I find a nice person
able to fulfill that want/request--it is icing on the cake. *But, just
give me my request!

What I keep running into in life are places where the employees are all
arranging the situation to "please" themselves (that usually means they
"get rid" of qualified individuals who are a "threat" to their job
position) with a great work environment and service sucks (indeed, I am
now ending up with "pleasant" a-holes in India/china/Malaysia on help
lines! *This REALLY peeves me!)--it is a job, yanno? *That is why they
call it "work!"

Now if both can be accomplished, great service AND a wonderful and
nurturing environment for "them"--GREAT! *I can't be fooled--I KNOW THE
DIFFERENCE! *:-D

Regards,
JS

John ,
Companies want to cut down labor costs on the assumption they sell to
employees of other companies who apparently have the money to spend.
This disregards his own employees buying power..
Unfortunatly the workers at other companies also have had their wages
cut such that the premise
that employees can afford the products of employers is false. Thus the
manufacture of products or inventory must be adjusted to concurr with
existing buying power. But the benefits of reduced labor costs were
pocketed by the employer while the purchasing price of the product
stayed the same or went up. Because the employee is now earning less
he needs assistance to get by. The costs of this is passed on to the
supplier in the form of taxes who imediately passes the addition to
the consumer. And so it goes on until the round about comes to a halt
and its riders raid the hoard that the employer pocketed by force.
Art