On Apr 11, 9:11 am, wrote:


Aaah but then sometimes fairy tales come true.

A Cinderella story this is not...
Cinderella (French: Cendrillon) is a popular fairy tale embodying
a classic folk tale myth-element of unjust oppression/triumphant
reward.
Thousands of variants are known throughout the world.
The word "cinderella" means one who unexpectedly achieves
recognition or success after a period of obscurity and neglect.


If you think art has cut and run because his claims are false I
suggest you think again, more likely he has "finally"come to the
realization he is wasting his time with people whose eyes are
blinkered by the ghosts of the past and reject anything that is not
written in a book.
The time for disclosure is coming closer and I forecast that when
it
comes the so called guru's on this group will choke on their word's.

Derek

Where is the beef? He sent the antenna to be tested by a ham
on this group. Have the tests been completed? No mention yet..
Either he hasn't had time, the snow hasn't melted, or the tests
have been completed, but the results not divulged by Art.
Take your pick.
BTW, I don't blame the tester if he hasn't had time to mess
with it.. It's not really his job to do Art's work anyway..

Prior Art has only himself for this dilemma of credibility.
A normal person would build the thing and compare it to a
known reference. Repeatably, over a period of time over
various paths, etc. They would not expect other people to
do their work for them.
If he can mount his miracle device on a tower, it seems to me
he should be capable of also installing a 1/2 wave dipole at
the appx same mounting height to act as a reference antenna.
I assume his device is horizontally polarized.
If not, he can use a reference monopole.
He talks of receiving DX with this device. I would hope so..
It's fairly common knowledge that even a very small antenna
can be a good receive antenna on that low freq. You have
such a high overall level that atmospheric noise is going to
be the limiting factor, rather than efficiency of the antenna.
The S/N ratio will not be much less than a full size antenna
under normal semi noisy conditions. Maybe not any less,
unless the noise level is very low.
My 44x44 inch diamond MW loop is very good at receiving,
and it can provide fairly good signal levels. But I'd never be
foolish enough to suggest it would make for an efficient
transmitting antenna.
But judging by the description he provides of his shoe box
size antenna using 22 gauge wire, it's quite possible that
my MW loop would out transmit his antenna on 160m.
After all, it's bigger, and using a whole lot less turns to
tune the antenna.
When Art was listening to his DX, why did he not contact
the station and request a signal report?
Cat got his tongue? 0r maybe he did, and the failure to
communicate was just too great for him to bear, much less
divulge to the world. Only the shadow knows for sure.

Why did Art not have a full size antenna up to have on
the air comparisons with said DX station? Or any
station for that matter..
Does he fear rejection of his antenna by said DX station?
It shouldn't really be an issue, being transmitting is not
required to compare the two.
But you have to at least take the initiative to put up a
reference antenna. Whining to rraa is not going to
get it done.
Woe is Art.

How was the performance of the miracle antenna when
you tried it? How did it compare to a full size reference
antenna? Did you see the same inefficient type of
performance from your version as Art described?
How many people have actually been able to hear you
through the noise using such an antenna?
Do you cheat and let the feed line the bulk of the radiating?
Do you actually work 160m at all?


Oh, you say you haven't tried it at all, but just like to
further the propagation of fairy tales...
I get it now. In other words, you about as full of @#$%
as he is?
I've been choking on his bafflegab for quite a while, so
that would be addfing nothing new to add to the program.
:/
The only thing you have left is to prove us naysayers
wrong. Better get busy. The tooth fairy is not going to
do your work for you and stick it under your pillow while
you count the sheep.
I've already tried small antennas. Except for my mobile
where I have no choice, I have no use for small antennas.
I don't like having to repeat most everything I say two or
three times to get a message through the noise.
I tried a half size dipole on 160m, using heavy high Q
loading coils. It would have eaten Arts miracle whip for
lunch. But to me, it was an inferior radiating device,
and was dismantled after only a short time of testing.
But Art is going to beat that 120 ft long high Q loaded
antenna with a shoe box sized mass of 22 gauge wire,
wound in what I consider a perverted manner...
Chortle....You slay me, you really do.