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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
Lumpy wrote:
Any guesses as to the origin of the mystery noise bugging me this morning would be apprec. I'm hearing an S9 "click" at just about once per second, everywhere on 20meters where there's not a powerful station's signal. It clicks for maybe 3-5 seconds then stops for a few seconds. Not always symmetrical (3 sec noise ~ 10 sec no noise). Click sounds like what I'd imagine a charging and regularly discharging capacitor might do. Freq independant, it's everywhere on the 20m phone segment. S9+ stations seem to override the click. S7 stations don't override, the click comes right through and clobbers reception. Station is "backyard remote", battery powered, asymmetrical wire dipole. I found some recordings of electric blanket noise via k0bg's site. It sounds very much like those recordings. Both of the elec blankets in my home are off and unplugged. Neighbor elec blankets? They would be probably 100' away from the closest point to my antenna. Noise just started this morning. No new elec or mechanical devices running at my home. Turned off the A/C, fans, elec fence, light dimmers, pool filter etc. Three computers run inside the house, as they have for years. Anyone have a guess at this 1 Hz click noise? TIA - Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke www.n0eq.com Everyone seems to assume this is local RFI - but I've heard something very like this recently - in the UK (I guess you're in US?). It's not electric fences or heating igniters - I am pretty familiar with what they sound like .... I can't remember the exact time or frequency, but 20m is probable. I clearly remember that it wasn't on other bands, and it was in groups of 1Hz pulses, with quiet spells. My guess is it could be some sort of OTH radar. I often hear OTHR pulses in the UK, but at a higher PRF. These are usually assumed to originate from the Cyprus or Middle East area. John |
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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
John wrote:
"I often hear OTHR pulses in the UK, but at a higher PRF." Yes and I`ve often heard a regular pulse in the USA every time a radar antenna swept in my direction within line of sight range. Radar was in the gigahertz band but the disturbed receiver was at a much lower frequency and of good quality. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
Richard Harrison wrote:
Yes and I`ve often heard a regular pulse in the USA every time a radar antenna swept in my direction within line of sight range. Radar was in the gigahertz band but the disturbed receiver was at a much lower frequency and of good quality. There's a municipal airport, KSDL, about 2 miles from me. Except for a very occasional tree, it's line of sight. Would a radar induced noise tend to attenuate if my receiving antenna (dipole) were off axis to the radar? Seems to me that it was indeed stronger when the lobes pointed toward the airport. Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke www.n0eq.com |
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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
Yes and I`ve often heard a regular pulse in the USA every time a radar
antenna swept in my direction within line of sight range. Radar was in the gigahertz band but the disturbed receiver was at a much lower frequency and of good quality. There's a municipal airport, KSDL, about 2 miles from me. Except for a very occasional tree, it's line of sight. However, 1Hz would require a very fast rotating radar antenna!!! Most radar antennas rotate much slower than that, normally in the region of 5 to 7 seconds, although a few ground surveillance radars to rotate a bit quicker. Also 1Hz is a bit slow for the prf of an OHR, they normally sound like a buzzing sound. 73 Jeff |
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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
In message , Jeff
writes Yes and I`ve often heard a regular pulse in the USA every time a radar antenna swept in my direction within line of sight range. Radar was in the gigahertz band but the disturbed receiver was at a much lower frequency and of good quality. There's a municipal airport, KSDL, about 2 miles from me. Except for a very occasional tree, it's line of sight. However, 1Hz would require a very fast rotating radar antenna!!! Most radar antennas rotate much slower than that, normally in the region of 5 to 7 seconds, although a few ground surveillance radars to rotate a bit quicker. Also 1Hz is a bit slow for the prf of an OHR, they normally sound like a buzzing sound. 73 Jeff It couldn't be something trickle-charging a battery, could it? A local amateur had trouble with his neighbour's electric shaver. This was left more-or-less permanently on charge, and produced regular clicks when the battery was full. And then there are things like cordless phones (often on-charge when not in use). -- Ian |
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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
On May 24, 2:59*pm, "Lumpy" wrote:
Richard Harrison wrote: Yes and I`ve often heard a regular pulse in the USA every time a radar antenna swept in my direction within line of sight range. Radar was in the gigahertz band but the disturbed receiver was at a much lower frequency and of good quality. There's a municipal airport, KSDL, about 2 miles from me. Except for a very occasional tree, it's line of sight. Would a radar induced noise tend to attenuate if my receiving antenna (dipole) were off axis to the radar? Seems to me that it was indeed stronger when the lobes pointed toward the airport. Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke www.n0eq.com Usually inference from an airport radar ASR takes the form of a very raspy 1000Hz more or less burst occuring every 4.5 seconds or so.There is one radar an ASDE that rotates a 60 rpm or once per second. If there is one of these located nearby you may hear the burst once a second. The pattern of the antenna is aimed at the ground hence its name Airport Surface Detection Equipment.At two miles out you could be in its coverage area |
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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
On Jun 5, 9:10*pm, JIMMIE wrote:
On May 24, 2:59*pm, "Lumpy" wrote: Richard Harrison wrote: Yes and I`ve often heard a regular pulse in the USA every time a radar antenna swept in my direction within line of sight range. Radar was in the gigahertz band but the disturbed receiver was at a much lower frequency and of good quality. There's a municipal airport, KSDL, about 2 miles from me. Except for a very occasional tree, it's line of sight. Would a radar induced noise tend to attenuate if my receiving antenna (dipole) were off axis to the radar? Seems to me that it was indeed stronger when the lobes pointed toward the airport. Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke www.n0eq.com Usually inference from an airport radar ASR takes the form of a very raspy 1000Hz more or less burst occuring every 4.5 seconds or so.There is one radar an ASDE that rotates a 60 rpm or once per second. If there is one of these located nearby you may hear the burst once a second. The pattern of the antenna is aimed at the ground hence its name Airport Surface Detection Equipment.At two miles out you could be in its coverage area- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I dont think SDL has an ASDE though I know they were supposed to get an ASR-11. Im not sure if they got it. The airport does have a REIL that flashes stobes to mark the end of the runway. Once a second is probably about the right rate for these. They could eaasily be the source of your RF interference. Jimmie |
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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
JIMMIE wrote:
I dont think SDL has an ASDE though I know they were supposed to get an ASR-11. Im not sure if they got it. The airport does have a REIL that flashes stobes to mark the end of the runway. Once a second is probably about the right rate for these. They could eaasily be the source of your RF interference. Thanks very much, Jimmie. Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke www.n0eq.com |
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1Hz click external noise? - HF Radar ?
On Sat, 24 May 2008 13:01:19 -0500, Richard Harrison wrote:
John wrote: "I often hear OTHR pulses in the UK, but at a higher PRF." Yes and I`ve often heard a regular pulse in the USA every time a radar antenna swept in my direction within line of sight range. Radar was in the gigahertz band but the disturbed receiver was at a much lower frequency and of good quality. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI I have one electronic clock (locked to WWV) that makes a QRM click every second when the second hand moves. Looking inside the clock, I've found a small coil of wire that was the mechanical actuator for the second hand. Placing a 100pf cap across the coil greatly reduced the noise. |
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