Bernard Peters wrote:
You can use the same logic when
someone ****es in your town's water
tank

Cecil Moore wrote:
You are absolutely correct. There would be no
measurable effect.

You could probably survive by eating cigarette
butts if you had to. And drink from an aquarium.
For that matter, you would survive if you didn't
have any arms or legs.

Maybe we could just pollute the earth till
we need glasses.


Lumpy

You were the "OPERATION" game voice?
Yes. Take out wrenched ankle.

www.LumpyVoice.com

Bernard Peters wrote:
Leave it to the lower-half of the IQ range to argue that dumping OVER 22
million tons of crap into the atmosphere a day would not have a long term
effect on our planet.

Yes, it is well known scientific fact that the "more than
25 cubic kilometres of rock, ash, and pumice" ejected by
Krakatoa destroyed all life on this planet in 1883. (Compared
to Mother Nature, man is such a piker.)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Bernard Peters wrote in
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eur.antenna:297129

On Thu, 22 May 2008 20:07:06 -1000, Roger wrote:

Sunspot cycle more dud than radiation flood
--
"We are also brainwashing our children on the warming topic. We have
no better example than Al Gore's alarmists and inaccurate movie which
is being
shown in our schools and being hawked by warming activists with little
or no meteorological-climate background," Gray wrote.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...5197,23411799-
7583,00.htm
l http://www.firesociety.com/article/24204/

Leave it to the lower-half of the IQ range to argue that dumping OVER
22 million tons of crap into the atmosphere a day would not have a
long term effect on our planet. Lucky for most of us that we'll be
dead shortly (20-40 years) and not have to worry about it.

Oh, your worried about brain-washing your kinds? Your a good parent!

No doubt home schooled to keep that nasty evolutionist crap out of
the little tykes heads too.

Note that the October 23, 4004 BC crowd uses the same tactics to
discredit evolution as they do the heat retentive effects of the so
called Greenhous gases.

I asked for non political reasons, and one of those folk just posted
here that GW believers are Marxists!

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Bernard Peters wrote in
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eur.antenna:297129

On Thu, 22 May 2008 20:07:06 -1000, Roger wrote:

Sunspot cycle more dud than radiation flood
--
"We are also brainwashing our children on the warming topic. We have
no better example than Al Gore's alarmists and inaccurate movie which
is being
shown in our schools and being hawked by warming activists with little
or no meteorological-climate background," Gray wrote.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...5197,23411799-
7583,00.htm
l http://www.firesociety.com/article/24204/

Leave it to the lower-half of the IQ range to argue that dumping OVER
22 million tons of crap into the atmosphere a day would not have a
long term effect on our planet. Lucky for most of us that we'll be
dead shortly (20-40 years) and not have to worry about it.

Oh, your worried about brain-washing your kinds? Your a good parent!

No doubt home schooled to keep that nasty evolutionist crap out of
the little tykes heads too.

Note that the October 23, 4004 BC crowd uses the same tactics to
discredit evolution as they do the heat retentive effects of the so
called Greenhous gases.

I asked for non political reasons, and one of those folk just posted
here that GW believers are Marxists!

if it weren't for politicians who are beholden to extreme environmentalists
who want to destroy the capitalist economic system and throw us back to
feudalism there would be no 'global warming crisis'. Its the damn hippy
culture of the 60's grown up and with money who have bought off enough votes
to keep this topic in the news who are to fault. and by using short term
data that isn't correlated with long term trends they can make the natural
short term fluctuations in temperatures look like catastrophes in
progress... my first statistics course professor said it best... "You can
prove anything with statistics." Just pick your data source, throw out the
outliers, apply the analysis that gives you the answer you want, and voila,
global warming, huge storms, and Florida sinks into the ocean. Where in the
bigger picture the temperature has gone down the last couple years, ocean
levels are falling and predicted to fall further, and one good volcano could
throw us into another ice age, then we'll all be begging for more greenhouse
gasses!

Dave wrote:
I asked for non political reasons, and one of those folk just
posted here that GW believers are Marxists!

if it weren't for politicians who are beholden to extreme
environmentalists who want to destroy the capitalist economic
system and throw us back to feudalism there would be no 'global
warming crisis'. Its the damn hippy culture of the 60's grown up
and with money who have bought off enough votes to keep this
topic in the news who are to fault.

That would be really funny if it were not so scary. Let's hope that
you have no influence outside of your backyard!

SNIP

So you can't trust statistics - wow that's news. Better then to go
in for inane political mud slinging. You can always tell a dead
argument by the level on insults flying around. Insults over
evidence and an informed mind every time!

--
M0WYM
www.radiowymsey.org

Wymsey - Ten years Old!
www.wymsey.co.uk

M0WYM wrote:
...
So you can't trust statistics - wow that's news. Better then to go
in for inane political mud slinging. You can always tell a dead
argument by the level on insults flying around. Insults over
evidence and an informed mind every time!


I don't know enough to make any absolute and highly accurate statements
on global warming or many of the environmental issues of today.

However, I do know this, lock yourself in your garage with your car
idling for a while and you may not leave that garage. And, I do believe
some sort of balance existed before man began taxing the natural systems
which support life on the planet.

I know the Salmon fishing industry is bust this year. I know there are
vast dead zones appearing in the oceans; some Coral reefs are
disappearing ...

I have a buddy who is a "camera freak" and he has taken me on freeway
overpasses with infrared cameras and shown me the "rivers of warm
exhaust" which the cars are passing through--left by the many cars which
have preceded them--each preceding vehicle spewing unknown quantities of
cubic feet of deadly gases ... I have seen traffic jams with most cars
idling--occupants behind rolled up windows--and, most likely, breathing
huge quantities of the noxious/odorless fumes. I don't even want to
consider power generation plants and businesses' contributions to all
this ... the megatons of spent nuclear materials in storage for
thousands of years, etc.

I know pollution from China has reached the west coast in
increasing-detectable levels and only adds to pollution levels which
then travel across America towards the east coast.

I wonder if and for how long we can just go about our tasks and ignore
all this? And, is this enough, or should this be enough, to begin
worrying prudent men and women?

I do know I can make one truthful statement; "I feel I would like to
keep my eyes open and my awareness level high."

I would like to think all this is still incapable of affecting the
atmosphere in such force and means as to affect communications! But
then, I have come to realize the saying, "truth is stranger than
fiction" can contain truth ...

I do think the aluminum/copper/zinc components of my antenna(s) seem to
show accelerated oxidation/damage--perhaps this is only imagined ... or,
silly fears fed by rumors of acid rain eating away at statues, masonry,
limestone, etc?

And yanno, I don't know who I would trust to believe on these subjects.
Trust the govt? Naaa. Trust big business who profit from generating
these pollutants? Naaa. I just may have lost my ability to trust anyone
.... not to mention "statistics manipulations" in general!

Perhaps I am just paranoid in general? Let's all hope ... that would be
quite nice, wouldn't it? Sometimes I just love being in error and
having only worried about nothing. Perhaps the future will make the
truth apparent.

Regards,
JS

M0WYM wrote:
So you can't trust statistics - wow that's news.

Can we trust the statistic that says the global-warming/ice-age
cycle has repeated itself at 90K-150k year intervals for the
last half million years?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com