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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:36:22 GMT, "aunwin"
wrote: What is it about parallel circuits that make them unsuitable? They are used every day to load up halfwave verticals, which in turn are also parallel equivalent circuits. Did you mean that? A halfwave vertical is a parallel circuit! That is the longstanding convention. Same thing applies to a one wavelength dipole. All such are the basis of the J-Pole and the Zepp (when you strip away their matching sections). The input to the parallel interface is performed through divider action (usually a tapped coil, but could be through a capacitor divider). Yes I know that but the question did say antennas didn't it? Antennas don't find much application without some method of driving them. Very few successful halfwave designs exist without matching. This is because the halfwave vertical, looking like a parallel circuit, has a considerable amount of Z that rejects power (unless your rig is a van-de-graff generator). Adding the radiation resistance to a high Z hardly allows any current into the radiation resistance. On the other hand, a quarterwave looks like a series resonant circuit with very low Z, and thus the radiation resistance absorbs all the power applied. Very simple electronics. One solution to feeding the halfwave tall vertical is to break it in half and feed it half way up (where the two sections look like series resonant, low Z elements feeding the radiation resistance without much impediment). This is simplified, of course, but it illustrates how the same circuit can support either a series resonant or parallel resonant description determined only by the topology of connection. You gave an answer to a question that was not asked. What you are refering to is not for its radiation attributes is it? I hope we are not going into a multi heading thread mode in less than 12 hours. Matching sections to the J-Pole and the Zepp are contributors to radiation due to the unbalanced nature of those antennas designs. How much they contribute is perhaps arguable, but when they are built in without care, their contribution cannot be denied. The matching circuits contain both circulating currents and common mode currents. The common mode currents, as a function of the physical length compared to wavelength, offer radiation. The radiation may aid, or it may hinder, but it is there none the less. Is stagger tuning a parallel circuit ? No, but it could be. Stagger tuning, by convention is a chain of separately tuned circuits, be they RC, RL, or LC (or, of course RLC). You mentioned the all important word of "tuned" so all of the above are parallel circuits....right? No, but they could be. The application of drive and loads determine the topology: One RC or RL circuit exhibits a 6dB/Octave or 10dB/Decade roll-off. One LC circuit exhibits twice that or a 12dB/Octave or 20dB/Decade roll-off. Again, it is all a matter of connections for the identical components (which will show a slight shift in parallel to series resonance frequency - which is to say it is application dependent). I totally miss this point and probably the blame is mine. I think you are saying that yes, they are parallel circuits, but you have an exception that you want to point out i.e.slight shift in parallel to series........... No, they are NOT parallel - they could be, but there is nothing inherently parallel and it all depends on the drive and load applied. Not sure if you are saying 'yes'. I personaly think it is a parallel circuit to which I would answer 'yes'. No, they are NOT parallel - they could be, but there is nothing inherently parallel and it all depends on the drive and load applied. Force 12 has stagger tuning, if it is series devised then it gives more ammo to the 'do not use parallel circuits for antennas' argument which seems to be prevalent with antenna experts. Force 12 makes many antennas, I will presume you are speaking of some beam array. Stagger tuning, in that sense, is much akin to the reflector, radiator, director relationship of the yagi. That design is stagger tuned, but such stagger tuning is to accomplish various delays that aid gain in one direction, and negate it in another. Such stagger tuning is not directly engaged upon for the purpose of bandwidth, although it may have indirect consequences. I have a beam array for 440 that employs an LPDA radiator tied into the conventional reflector and directors. As such it performs stagger tuning for the purpose of beam forming AND bandwidth. The elements in the Fan Dipole or the Log Periodic Dipole Array more closely align to the conventional meaning of stagger tuning. The Fan Dipole is the most obvious case. It's metaphor would be as many parallel, series resonant circuits as there are elements, each slightly tuned off from the other, all feeding in series and combining in parallel to average a wider bandwidth response than any single series resonant element. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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