John Smith wrote:
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Cecil Moore wrote:
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How do you suspect that when a $1 silver certificates was exchangeable
for $1 worth of silver?

Unless you did the exchange a REALLY long time ago, the transaction
is break even.



I think he was simply pointing out that something still backs the
"worth" of a "silver certificate" (well, if it still existed, in reality.)

Since our currently issued dollar has nothing behind it than our
production, possibility of producing, and labor ... and with a
frightening amount of that having "gone over seas", it is virtually
worthless ...

However, no one realizes this, well, seems to realize this.

Or, to summarize this:

The dollar is worthless and only those who have replaced these with real
objects/matter of value have any real wealth.

Indeed, money has become a religion, only those who can make a leap of
faith as to it having real worth are believers ... at least here in the USA.

Regards,
JS

The "worth" of any medium of exchange is whatever the "worth" is
perceived to be, whether it be cash, checks, certificates of deposit,
stock certificates, money orders, bonds, gold bars, silver bars, or
shiny beads.

About the only medium of exchange that had any intrinsic value was salt.

The "value" of real objects is also whatever it is perceived to be; I
don't think my house is worth $500,000, but the housing market does.

Look up supply and demand and then tell me why diamonds are so "valuable"
and why no one is paid in salt anymore.

None of this is unique to the US, it is the way the economy works in
the modern world.


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Jim Pennino

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I think he was simply pointing out that something still backs the
"worth" of a "silver certificate" (well, if it still existed, in
reality.)

Since our currently issued dollar has nothing behind it than our
production, possibility of producing, and labor ... and with a
frightening amount of that having "gone over seas", it is virtually
worthless ...

However, no one realizes this, well, seems to realize this.

Or, to summarize this:

The dollar is worthless and only those who have replaced these with real
objects/matter of value have any real wealth.

Indeed, money has become a religion, only those who can make a leap of
faith as to it having real worth are believers ... at least here in the
USA.

Regards,
JS

The "worth" of any medium of exchange is whatever the "worth" is
perceived to be, whether it be cash, checks, certificates of deposit,
stock certificates, money orders, bonds, gold bars, silver bars, or
shiny beads.

About the only medium of exchange that had any intrinsic value was salt.

The "value" of real objects is also whatever it is perceived to be; I
don't think my house is worth $500,000, but the housing market does.

Look up supply and demand and then tell me why diamonds are so "valuable"
and why no one is paid in salt anymore.

None of this is unique to the US, it is the way the economy works in
the modern world.


I was trying to point out that you can no longer go the the bank or whatever
and exchange your paper silver certificiate for silver backed by the
government.

YOu are correct , paper or other objects that have no use are only worth
what others will pay. I have read of used stamps going for atleast a
million dollars. They are of no use at all that I can think of, but to a
collector as there are only one or two known to exist that one is worth
whatever you can get for it, nothing to millions.

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The "worth" of any medium of exchange is whatever the "worth" is
perceived to be, whether it be cash, checks, certificates of deposit,
stock certificates, money orders, bonds, gold bars, silver bars, or
shiny beads.

Gold is worth its weight in gold. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

Cecil Moore wrote:

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Gold is worth its weight in gold. :-)

Actually, weighed on gold scale, it is worth
magnitudes more! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

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The dollar is worthless and only those who have replaced these with real
objects/matter of value have any real wealth.
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Regards,
JS



The "worth" of any medium of exchange is whatever the "worth" is
perceived to be, whether it be cash, checks, certificates of deposit,
stock certificates, money orders, bonds, gold bars, silver bars, or
shiny beads.

About the only medium of exchange that had any intrinsic value was salt.

The "value" of real objects is also whatever it is perceived to be; I
don't think my house is worth $500,000, but the housing market does.

Look up supply and demand and then tell me why diamonds are so "valuable"
and why no one is paid in salt anymore.

None of this is unique to the US, it is the way the economy works in
the modern world.

In the portion of my post, top, what didn't you understand?

Diamonds, valuable? Are you truly an idiot man? As I have pointed out,
in the past, diamonds are worth about $5 bucks a carrot; now, that is
still a bit expensive to pave your driveway with, but none the less
worthless when compared to what people (like you) THINK they are worth.

See the following and wakeup!:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html
http://www.apollodiamond.com/
http://www.gemesis.com/

Diamonds are what the next wafers of microprocessors and chips will be
built on ... without a doubt, they will be cheaper in the future than
they are today, but still worthless, virtually ...

And yes, like I have pointed out, idiots who think the dollar is worth a
dollar abound! And, just ignore them starting up the presses and
printing worthless dollars ... I just wish I had a press and was allowed
such freedom! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
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Regards,
JS


Let me expound upon all this ...

If you pay $5,000-$10,000, or-more for a diamond, then you go to sell
the diamond--would you expect to get close to what you paid?

Do you realize in such places as china they are using this technology
and injecting "flaws" (purposeful ones to hide the fact they are
man-made) into the diamonds, and they are as-good-as-natural? Duh, this
means the market will eventually be flooded with this stuff as "cheap as
sand!"

Only a fool would invest in diamonds, if you have 'em, dump 'em before
EVERYONE finds out! And, remember, you heard it here first--if you feel
generous, ship me a 10% "consultation fee." ROFLOL

The only good use for diamonds are industrial ones, anyway ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
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Regards,
JS


Let me expound upon all this ...

If you pay $5,000-$10,000, or-more for a diamond, then you go to sell
the diamond--would you expect to get close to what you paid?

Unless you are in the business, you will be buying at retail prices
and selling at wholesale prices, just like anything else.

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Jim Pennino

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Unless you are in the business, you will be buying at retail prices
and selling at wholesale prices, just like anything else.


Unless you are an IDIOT, you will NOT be buying a retail and wholesale
"MANIPULATED PRICES", and especially not those of yesterday!

I am sorry, you WILL NOT handle anyones financial security!

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
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Unless you are in the business, you will be buying at retail prices
and selling at wholesale prices, just like anything else.

Unless you are an IDIOT, you will NOT be buying a retail and wholesale
"MANIPULATED PRICES", and especially not those of yesterday!

I am sorry, you WILL NOT handle anyones financial security!

Regards,
JS

And, let me expound upon this to the point of rationality ...

Take a court punishment, enacted under the law, as defined by our
forefathers ... under fair and just/unjust doctrine ...

A transient, a poor person, etc, they would be meted out a $10 dollar
fine, a worker--perhaps a $50 dollar fine? A doctor--perhaps a $100
dollar fine? Bill Gates--perhaps a $100,000 dollar fine?

You get my drift? It is fairness, trust, respect, etc. which has
vanished ... and with it, a fairness in our financial institution(s) ...

It is why respect for the system is either gone, or will be in the near
future. Do you really want to live in a world like that? Would in not
be sane to take control of our "public servants", before we suffer?

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
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Unless you are in the business, you will be buying at retail prices
and selling at wholesale prices, just like anything else.


Unless you are an IDIOT, you will NOT be buying a retail and wholesale
"MANIPULATED PRICES", and especially not those of yesterday!

So, since you are such an expert, please let us all know how to go
to the store and get the wholesale price on a six-pack.


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Jim Pennino

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