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The dollar is worthless and only those who have replaced these with real
objects/matter of value have any real wealth.
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Regards,
JS



The "worth" of any medium of exchange is whatever the "worth" is
perceived to be, whether it be cash, checks, certificates of deposit,
stock certificates, money orders, bonds, gold bars, silver bars, or
shiny beads.

About the only medium of exchange that had any intrinsic value was salt.

The "value" of real objects is also whatever it is perceived to be; I
don't think my house is worth $500,000, but the housing market does.

Look up supply and demand and then tell me why diamonds are so "valuable"
and why no one is paid in salt anymore.

None of this is unique to the US, it is the way the economy works in
the modern world.

In the portion of my post, top, what didn't you understand?

Diamonds, valuable? Are you truly an idiot man? As I have pointed out,
in the past, diamonds are worth about $5 bucks a carrot; now, that is
still a bit expensive to pave your driveway with, but none the less
worthless when compared to what people (like you) THINK they are worth.

See the following and wakeup!:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html
http://www.apollodiamond.com/
http://www.gemesis.com/

Diamonds are what the next wafers of microprocessors and chips will be
built on ... without a doubt, they will be cheaper in the future than
they are today, but still worthless, virtually ...

And yes, like I have pointed out, idiots who think the dollar is worth a
dollar abound! And, just ignore them starting up the presses and
printing worthless dollars ... I just wish I had a press and was allowed
such freedom! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

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[his normal chit]

Regards,
JS


Let me expound upon all this ...

If you pay $5,000-$10,000, or-more for a diamond, then you go to sell
the diamond--would you expect to get close to what you paid?

Do you realize in such places as china they are using this technology
and injecting "flaws" (purposeful ones to hide the fact they are
man-made) into the diamonds, and they are as-good-as-natural? Duh, this
means the market will eventually be flooded with this stuff as "cheap as
sand!"

Only a fool would invest in diamonds, if you have 'em, dump 'em before
EVERYONE finds out! And, remember, you heard it here first--if you feel
generous, ship me a 10% "consultation fee." ROFLOL

The only good use for diamonds are industrial ones, anyway ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
John Smith wrote:
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Regards,
JS


Let me expound upon all this ...

If you pay $5,000-$10,000, or-more for a diamond, then you go to sell
the diamond--would you expect to get close to what you paid?

Unless you are in the business, you will be buying at retail prices
and selling at wholesale prices, just like anything else.

--
Jim Pennino

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Unless you are in the business, you will be buying at retail prices
and selling at wholesale prices, just like anything else.


Unless you are an IDIOT, you will NOT be buying a retail and wholesale
"MANIPULATED PRICES", and especially not those of yesterday!

I am sorry, you WILL NOT handle anyones financial security!

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
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Unless you are in the business, you will be buying at retail prices
and selling at wholesale prices, just like anything else.

Unless you are an IDIOT, you will NOT be buying a retail and wholesale
"MANIPULATED PRICES", and especially not those of yesterday!

I am sorry, you WILL NOT handle anyones financial security!

Regards,
JS

And, let me expound upon this to the point of rationality ...

Take a court punishment, enacted under the law, as defined by our
forefathers ... under fair and just/unjust doctrine ...

A transient, a poor person, etc, they would be meted out a $10 dollar
fine, a worker--perhaps a $50 dollar fine? A doctor--perhaps a $100
dollar fine? Bill Gates--perhaps a $100,000 dollar fine?

You get my drift? It is fairness, trust, respect, etc. which has
vanished ... and with it, a fairness in our financial institution(s) ...

It is why respect for the system is either gone, or will be in the near
future. Do you really want to live in a world like that? Would in not
be sane to take control of our "public servants", before we suffer?

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
wrote:


Unless you are in the business, you will be buying at retail prices
and selling at wholesale prices, just like anything else.


Unless you are an IDIOT, you will NOT be buying a retail and wholesale
"MANIPULATED PRICES", and especially not those of yesterday!

So, since you are such an expert, please let us all know how to go
to the store and get the wholesale price on a six-pack.


--
Jim Pennino

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So, since you are such an expert, please let us all know how to go
to the store and get the wholesale price on a six-pack.



Damn man! Ever been to a flea market where they are asking $100.00 and
you offer 'em $20 ... krist, you have to have the courage to let 'em
take it home, find another sucker, or let you buy it!

Damn, where were you born?

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
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So, since you are such an expert, please let us all know how to go
to the store and get the wholesale price on a six-pack.



Damn man! Ever been to a flea market where they are asking $100.00 and
you offer 'em $20 ... krist, you have to have the courage to let 'em
take it home, find another sucker, or let you buy it!

Sure, but what has that to do with buying stuff from the store?

I don't do recycled beer.

--
Jim Pennino

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Jim Higgins wrote:

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Manufactured diamonds are easily spotted with the proper equipment,
stuff even large jewelry stores don't have... x-ray fluorescence for
one... not that it matters since the real thing has no more intrinsic
value. I'd say that close to 90% (SWAG) of the so-called value of
diamonds is perceived value.

There's a darn good chance that the cost to manufacture a high quality
diamond exceeds the cost of mining the equivalent one, but they're
cheaper to the consumer because those who manufacture them don't
manage the supply like the market for natural diamonds is managed...
that and they've convinced the market that the "real thing" is better.


Only a fool would invest in diamonds, if you have 'em, dump 'em before
EVERYONE finds out! And, remember, you heard it here first--if you feel
generous, ship me a 10% "consultation fee." ROFLOL
...

You DID NOT read the article by Wired, I can tell ... NO, these
"manufactured diamonds" cannot be told apart from those occurring in
nature, by ANY JEWELER ... other than they SHOULD bear a laser engraved
number upon them.

To tell the difference, they must be placed under an electron microscope
.... and the only "difference" that will be seen is that THEY ARE TOO
PERFECT--ABSOLUTELY NO FLAWS, THAT IS IT! GET IT RIGHT--THEY ARE REAL!

China is creating them complete--no laser mark and with FLAWS ... place
'em under an electron microscope and you can't tell the difference. The
reason?, duh, they ARE REAL. (anyway, just buy a BIG manufactured one
and have it cut down to remove the mark--however, it will still be more
perfect than any found in nature)

Exceed the cost of mining the "natural ones?" Naaa, you can't even mine
'em at $5 bucks a carrot ...

I repeat, only a fool would buy a natural diamond ... you can find the
manufactured ones in better jewelery stores ... they are about 1/3 of
the cost of natural ones, at this time ... however, I just negotiated
the price to ~%25 ... however, I still got burned, the wife just had to
have it though. :-(

Regards,
JS

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I repeat, only a fool would buy a natural diamond ... you can find the
manufactured ones in better jewelery stores ... they are about 1/3 of
the cost of natural ones, at this time

Even cheaper, you can make your own diamonds in your microwave oven:
http://hypography.com/forums/chemistry/804-make-diamond-out-of-your-microwave.html
The main ingredients are charcoal briquettes and peanut butter.
Hmmm... they seem to have left out the requisite plama torch.
Let us know how the diamond smells, err... looks.
--
Jeff Liebermann
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558