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"John Smith" wrote in message ... JB wrote: ... None of this disproves the idea that the universe is created along with the laws of physics and the bio-chemical engines that conform to the will of God. Let's face it, science doesn't disprove creation theory at all. It simply tries to explain and make use of what we are provided with. Doesn't mean we shouldn't give thanks. The Bible explanation of creation isn't more specific than what was appropriate for a developing intellect. Any one with any true intellect will be in awe with the realization that all of the laws of Physics, the extremely refined and complex Bio-Chemical engines that contribute to life in all its forms, and the extreme odds against a planet with the narrow margin of environmental conditions, all would fit the definition of the greatest miracle known. To be known by the only species enabled to know it. Whereas we struggle to understand where we are and what we are capable of in the here and now (and fall miserably short) The Bible actually dares to and does predict the future and stands as the most insightful understanding of our past, our nature, and hope for the future. I can certainly understand how people could have a beef with "religion". After all, the Bible even warns us of superstitious people, God haters, hypocrites. Jesus himself warns in his parables that many would be among the righteous planted by the enemy to discourage, usurp and mislead. Who doesn't know of those in a group that gossip and tear down others. It's like a boat on the ocean and some are chopping up the main mast for firewood because they just want to be comfortable, while some are chopping a hole in the hull because they are curious of what is on the other side and have no discipline or forethought. He never said it would be easy. Man, when good reasoning, common sense and a good education finally hit you ... your post, above, is going to be a real embarrassment ... :-( Is that a threat? Let me know when you have proved that rocks came out of nothing, spontaneously. Then prove life sprang up out of rocks, then prove you sprang up out of that. You have a long way to go in your religion. In any case, good reasoning, common sense and good education Left the country long ago. The dating issue is the only real point of contention, but the Bible doesn't really specify a date for creation or if it refers to the whole universe or to our solar system or out world. The specific details of creation, as in how it was accomplished just aren't there. It's easy for you to say billions because no one you know was there. My point is: Science can't prove so you shouldn't slam the book shut just yet. When you meet your maker, you will have more than your ego to worry about. |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
... JB wrote: ... None of this disproves the idea that the universe is created along with the laws of physics and the bio-chemical engines that conform to the will of God. Let's face it, science doesn't disprove creation theory at all. It simply tries to explain and make use of what we are provided with. Doesn't mean we shouldn't give thanks. The Bible explanation of creation isn't more specific than what was appropriate for a developing intellect. Any one with any true intellect will be in awe with the realization that all of the laws of Physics, the extremely refined and complex Bio-Chemical engines that contribute to life in all its forms, and the extreme odds against a planet with the narrow margin of environmental conditions, all would fit the definition of the greatest miracle known. To be known by the only species enabled to know it. Whereas we struggle to understand where we are and what we are capable of in the here and now (and fall miserably short) The Bible actually dares to and does predict the future and stands as the most insightful understanding of our past, our nature, and hope for the future. I can certainly understand how people could have a beef with "religion". After all, the Bible even warns us of superstitious people, God haters, hypocrites. Jesus himself warns in his parables that many would be among the righteous planted by the enemy to discourage, usurp and mislead. Who doesn't know of those in a group that gossip and tear down others. It's like a boat on the ocean and some are chopping up the main mast for firewood because they just want to be comfortable, while some are chopping a hole in the hull because they are curious of what is on the other side and have no discipline or forethought. He never said it would be easy. Man, when good reasoning, common sense and a good education finally hit you ... your post, above, is going to be a real embarrassment ... :-( Sorry from some difficult sentences but I'm sure you can sound it out ok. |
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JB wrote:
... Is that a threat? Let me know when you have proved that rocks came out of nothing, spontaneously. Then prove life sprang up out of rocks, then prove you sprang up out of that. You have a long way to go in your religion. In any case, good reasoning, common sense and good education Left the country long ago. The dating issue is the only real point of contention, but the Bible doesn't really specify a date for creation or if it refers to the whole universe or to our solar system or out world. The specific details of creation, as in how it was accomplished just aren't there. It's easy for you to say billions because no one you know was there. My point is: Science can't prove so you shouldn't slam the book shut just yet. When you meet your maker, you will have more than your ego to worry about. Brother, at 6' 2" I make no threats ... all you see is me for a few seconds ... I don't play games. I don't intimidate, if you stand in my presence, you will know it. So, get past that jerk, this is simply all about text and discussion ... You are an idiot in my book. I will not attempt to hide that from your. Your arguments are shallow and repeat those make over decades ... if you can do nothing else, could you at least attempt to be entertaining, please? Bible? I don't remember I ever mentioned that ... what I am talking about is pure logic. Remember maggots and spontaneous generation? Is this what you once more propose? ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IDIOTS! A dime a dozen, I tell ya ... Regards, JS |
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JB wrote:
... Is that a threat? Let me know when you have proved that rocks came out of nothing, spontaneously. Then prove life sprang up out of rocks, then prove you sprang up out of that. You have a long way to go in your religion. In any case, good reasoning, common sense and good education Left the country long ago. The dating issue is the only real point of contention, but the Bible doesn't really specify a date for creation or if it refers to the whole universe or to our solar system or out world. The specific details of creation, as in how it was accomplished just aren't there. It's easy for you to say billions because no one you know was there. My point is: Science can't prove so you shouldn't slam the book shut just yet. When you meet your maker, you will have more than your ego to worry about. Brother, at 6' 2" I make no threats ... all you see is me for a few seconds ... I don't play games. I don't intimidate, if you stand in my presence, you will know it. So, get past that jerk, this is simply all about text and discussion ... You are an idiot in my book. I will not attempt to hide that from you. Your arguments are shallow and repeat those made over decades ... if you can do nothing else, could you at least attempt to be entertaining, please? Bible? I don't remember I ever mentioned that ... what I am talking about is pure logic. Remember maggots and spontaneous generation? Is this what you once more propose? ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IDIOTS! A dime a dozen, I tell ya ... Regards, JS |
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JB wrote:
Is that a threat? ... Yanno'? Dummy, the last time I had to have a physical altercation was in 1999 ... a lady had her purse snatched, I had to run the guy down and physically take it back, he didn't offer it ... she thanked me, she was nice ... Everyone else in life thinks me a nice guy, I like it that way ... :-) Regards, JS |
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JB wrote:
... Sorry from some difficult sentences but I'm sure you can sound it out ok. Absolutely, from my background in education ... you wouldn't even begin to believe what I know about you, you tell it all, the omissions are equally as important as the details you provide ... but then, you SHOULD already have know that ... don't even bother consider such in the future .... please. Regards, JS |
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JB wrote:
... Sorry from some difficult sentences but I'm sure you can sound it out ok. Absolutely, from my background in education ... you wouldn't even begin to believe what I know about you, you tell it all, the omissions are equally as important as the details you provide ... but then, you SHOULD already have know that ... don't even bother considering such in the future .... please. Regards, JS |
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Absolutely, from my background in education ... you wouldn't even begin
to believe what I know about you, you tell it all, the omissions are equally as important as the details you provide ... but then, you SHOULD already have know that ... don't even bother considering such in the future ... please. Regards, JS Sorry OM you kept dropping out. |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
... JB wrote: Is that a threat? ... Yanno'? Dummy, the last time I had to have a physical altercation was in 1999 ... a lady had her purse snatched, I had to run the guy down and physically take it back, he didn't offer it ... she thanked me, she was nice ... Everyone else in life thinks me a nice guy, I like it that way ... :-) Regards, JS So, you're a legend in your own mind. Your reactivity by the way indicates you have belligerent tendencies and probably a fascist. The multiple posting may very well mean that you take quite a while to calm down to sanity when you flip out. Work on that or everyone will know where your buttons are and you will be too easily manipulated. But then, you might not have a job unless you were easily manipulated. Another paradox. Teachers, God bless them, have the position where they assemble knowledge that has been passed to them and must unquestioningly accept that knowledge or take considerable time out to investigate that knowledge themselves. It is a major paradox. There once was an old saying, but it is too unkind. I would like to rephrase it; Those who do, do and those who teach, don't have time to do. |
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JB wrote:
... So, you're a legend in your own mind. Your reactivity by the way indicates ... No, actually not. However, as your text indicates, I "AM SOMETHING" you don't see in your ghetto, thanks for the "heads-up." People DO tend to be a product of their environment ... again, reflected in your text. Regards, JS |
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