JB wrote:

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The Forrestal disaster was attributed to druggies. The enemy was no doubt
there on board. Many people have yet to figure out about the mechanics of
such disasters. I submit that there will be 2 sides to every story to come
out of the Vietnam war, and that sufficient truth is often left out to allow
that.

I wrecked a few cars before I learned how to drive. Have you ever been
tortured for information? or just for the hell of it? People who sit around
and talk about it over tea aren't fit to judge who a hero is but they are
often left to talk about it. Let's just call him "experienced". I really
don't consider Obama to be the "Black Messiah" either.

I feel that both candidates were potential disasters, showing the idiots had
prevailed before the election. The vote only served as an international
"poll" on how best to proceed to our doom. It seems the election has tried
to set the clock back to what it was before 9/11. Let's see what develops
this time around.

Along the way, though college, it is pointed out to you that any great
story (or, at least a believable one) has a protagonist and an
antagonist (sometimes more of them, sometimes less of them); i.e. a
"good guy" and a "bad guy." It is based on a storyline where great
adversity is found, great sacrifice and energy extended and exerted, and
finally the defeat of the enemy is had ... funny, but we will fall for
this same line though uncounted books by uncounted authors. Read any
great Greek tragedies/novels/plays, Shakespeare knew this and you find
it in his offerings. (Or, turn on Rush, "... bad democrats, good
republicans ...", this is simply recited over-and-over again to keep
idiots in line and massage the weak minds into the hypnotic/religious
lies which got us here ... some still have futures which hinge on
keeping the insanity alive. Indeed, real change will bring collapse ...)

Such is also how our political system is arranged, good guy vs. bad guy
(and, you just pick who is good and who is bad, or toss a coin. Or have
you allegiances bought and paid for ...) And, so is our foreign policy
applied, we are the good guy, they are the bad guy and these are our
friends who help us in our great adventure ... fear gets the whole ball
rolling, even unjustified fear(s) will work ...

Someday, all will see the truth, become ashamed of living such a shallow
"truth(s)", and be shamed into higher standards and goals ... until that
time, a few can control the minds of many ... and ultimately the world.

Regards,
JS