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wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: Art Unwin wrote: 7 inches of snow with two more clippers on the way has put a crimp in my immediate plans Hmmmmm, I don't seem to have that problem here in East Texas. Y'all come on down. We have heard rumors of that stuff here in California ... ;-) Regards, JS Yeah, and in Texas you get other stuff on your boots instead of snow ;-)) Sincerely, (hey I voted for that Texan who got to be POTUS), John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 |
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John Smith wrote:
At a certain ratio of capacitance to inductance, in the design of an antenna, that "magical/mystical value" of 477 ohms would be reached. Rumors are that California is in a different universe. Guess that "477 ohms" proves it. :-) -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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J. B. Wood wrote:
Yeah, and in Texas you get other stuff on your boots instead of snow ;-)) Have you seen the "Ski Texas" poster? A guy skiing down a pile of cow paddies. :-) -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Art Unwin wrote:
... On the other hand this 477 ohms figure certainly is mystical to me, what is the point you are trying to make? Is it possible that the figure you are using is bigger than you intended by being larger than life itself Oh, I WOULD propose that 477 ohms is "real"; indeed, it as real as gravity. That is the ONLY reason you would find it in antenna calculations and mentioned in books ... however, you are quite correct, it seems it only serves as a "placeholder" and as a "magical number"--its' only purpose, to make equations and assumptions work which would otherwise not ... what that 477 ohms "really is", is the crux of an important omission/guess/fudge-factor/etc. ... All the above is material that you can use in your determination if I am of sane mind or not. But first you must set your mind free accepting only that which you can personally derive from first principles as something that can be built upon. Brrrrr it is geting cold Goodnight Art Art, I believe you sane enough, you simply "poke at matters" which are taboo ... and, I am loathe to be more specific. You either see the discontinuities which prevent "the picture from being complete", or you do not. If I felt I could go even further out on a limb, I would. For now there are only questions and a search through others thoughts ... Regards, JS |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
... Rumors are that California is in a different universe. Guess that "477 ohms" proves it. :-) Your point being well taken, I can only reply, "477 ohms can ONLY be as important as the equations which depend upon it to function." Regards, JS |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote: At a certain ratio of capacitance to inductance, in the design of an antenna, that "magical/mystical value" of 477 ohms would be reached. Rumors are that California is in a different universe. Guess that "477 ohms" proves it. :-) Oh gawd, you got me 377 (it exists in my calculator as a variable "fs" (or "free space"), I seldom enter it from a keyboard) ... its' computation given he http://whatis.techtarget.com/definit...845268,00.html I do that, yanno'? :-( Regards, JS |
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John Smith wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: Rumors are that California is in a different universe. Guess that "477 ohms" proves it. :-) Your point being well taken, I can only reply, "477 ohms can ONLY be as important as the equations which depend upon it to function." Dang John, you missed the point. In the free space that exists in my universe in Texas that figure is 376.73031346177... ohms. Is 477 ohms the Z0 of free space in the land of fruits and nuts? :-) -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Art Unwin wrote:
... Brrrrr it is geting cold Goodnight Art To get us closer to being on the same page: http://www.physlink.com/Education/askExperts/ae674.cfm Says it better than I ever could. Regards, JS |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
... Dang John, you missed the point. In the free space that exists in my universe in Texas that figure is 376.73031346177... ohms. Is 477 ohms the Z0 of free space in the land of fruits and nuts? :-) Cecil: LOL! I was slow on the uptake, sorry old man ... :-( I know that is a terrible sin here, one I make too frequently ... you got me! I punched [1 x "fs"] into the calculator, got the ~377 and immediately recognized my error ... just gettin' old and slow here ... It was wise of you to make a point of it ... thanks! Regards, JS |
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On Dec 4, 11:38*am, John Smith wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: * ... On the other hand this 477 ohms figure certainly is mystical to me, what is the point you *are trying to make? Is it possible that the figure you are using is bigger than you intended *by being larger than life itself Oh, I WOULD propose that 477 ohms is "real"; *indeed, it as real as gravity. *That is the ONLY reason you would find it in antenna calculations and mentioned in books ... however, you are quite correct, it seems it only serves as a "placeholder" and as a "magical number"--its' only purpose, to make equations and assumptions work which would otherwise not ... what that 477 ohms "really is", is the crux of an important omission/guess/fudge-factor/etc. ... *All the above is material that you can use in your determination if I am of sane mind or not. But first you must set your mind free accepting only that which you can personally derive from first principles as something that can be built upon. Brrrrr it is geting cold Goodnight Art Art, I believe you sane enough, you simply "poke at matters" which are taboo ... and, I am loathe to be more specific. *You either see the discontinuities which prevent "the picture from being complete", or you do not. *If I felt I could go even further out on a limb, I would. *For now there are only questions and a search through others thoughts ... Regards, JS John, my first point was the 477 error but you didn't catch on.No problem Regarding taboo. When the gloves are taken off then every thing goes !. The first person to fire does not make the rules for what then ensues. When a animal kicks you in the crotch then there is a good chance it has rabies and you do what you have to do,. Ofcourse you can run away but then that would be very painful and lasts a life time. Let it drop My very best regards Art Unwin KB9MZ.......xg |
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