Bart Bailey wrote:

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It regains it's own authority.

Yes, by overthrow of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. By far the
best deal we ever had as citizens.

There is much truth there. It seems humans are constructed with a need
to worship "something." In the absence of a loving God, we get a stern
and vengeful state ... wait and see.

Regards,
JS

The Government struggles with taking care of all the stupid minions, trained
to fail for generations, that desire to be taken care of or need to belong
to something at any cost, with an ever present temptation to either wipe
them out or let nature somehow wipe them out to ease the burden. The
collapse of the economy of the Soviet Union meant that despite the
atrocities, it could have been a whole lot worse for a lot more people
(perhaps the collapse itself was little more than an abdication of
responsibility while hard-line idealists regrouped- I digress.).
Perestroika was blamed for the fall, but economic realities resulted in that
panic jump into a new course they knew nothing about. Look at how many new
business fail because the owner doesn't even have a business plan. Now
there is a knee-jerk reaction to old ways that never worked. It could be
compared to the South after Reconstruction. Suddenly the slaves were free,
but few knew how to prosper.

We still haven't found rock-bottom in the disaster we have incurred with so
much Social tampering in our society. Even as of several years ago, I spoke
to some people who straight faced hoped for another national crash, fall,
and depression in the hopes that another leader like Roosevelt could emerge.
An honest analysis of the depression era clearly shows that none of the so
called progressive programs actually brought us out of the Great Depression.
In fact many of those programs actually prolonged the misery. Recovery was
actually credited to Shirley Temple and W.W.II. At least Shirley often gave
the glory to God.

The credit for alleviating suffering throughout the World still goes to God.
Even FEMA credits Christian charity and volunteers for far more than they
ever could have done when referring to Katrina.

BTW anyone who doesn't get any part of this, just ask for a clarification.
It can be broken down and s'plained in more personal terms. As for the
discone question, it was well answered and covered long ago.

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Tom Donaly wrote:

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Get help, JB. You can say all this stuff in some of the more psychotic
churches in this country and maybe get some people to think you're wise
and prophetic, but this is a forum for antennas, not the evils of
consorting with devil-worshiping Thai ladyboys. On this forum, you're
simply making a paranoid old fool of yourself.
Hope you get well, soon,
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

Tom:

Excuse us for having a bit of fun, but the subject matter grew boring
and we just had a bit of a side chat ... no harm met.

Regards,
JS

In fact, if devil-worshipping Thai ladyboys are influencing or making public
policy regarding local zoning laws, it could have a great effect on your
available antenna choices.

"John Smith" wrote in message
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JB wrote:

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First off, "separation of church and state" is cited nowhere in The
Constitution, neither does "freedom from religion." In fact, First
Amendment was placed that no particular denomination would be made the
official religion of The State. But not only would a belief in God be
respected, but considered necessary and in fact, God is cited as the
primary
justification for the very existence of, and the authority of, The
State.
When The State kills off God, then it usurps it's own authority.


Absolutely, however, I think it is blatantly implied, the separation(s.)
Those who do not believe in an intelligence which created all this,
ask me to believe that you can take a handful of wood, glass, plastic,
etc. toss it into a mud-puddle, come back a few million years later and
begin digging up microwaves, cellphones, TVs', radios, etc.; And, they
laugh at me for believing a thinking mind had a hand in all this! Go
figure ...

AFAIK marriage was mostly a registration thing to start with, then it
progressed to further regulation and intervention "for the sake of the
children" as in rh factor typing, and tax credit, then on to legal
authority
in breaking up families and assigning child support and custody which
has
now become a complete Socialist joke since they have been awarding
adoption
and custody of even same sex children to gays so they can "indoctrinate"
which really means "grooming" or preparing for rape by force,
intimidation
or bamboozle. They may claim they aren't really child moles_rs, but how
can
you believe that when someone aggressively promotes "lust of the flesh"
or
"sexual gratification" as an alternative to God's way. If it were only
about LOVE there wouldn't be a discussion because in the end we would be
brothers and sisters in heaven, not Plaintiff and Defendant, Gay or
Straight, so as a people we seem to be "delivered over to a reprobate
mind"
and our government is only a reflection of that.

Yeah, a look back though history provides all sorts of weird things.
Like, the king decided who could and could not marry, had dibs on having
sex with the bride first, etc. Like I said, gov't has no place in
religious affairs--end-of-story.


The sickest argument put forth is the "Scientific" argument, that it is
only
natural. But that argument works as well for even cannibalism, since it
occurs in nature too. So what separates us from being animals?

It looks pretty natural to me. Not only that, but it is the only way to
have a stable society where there the children are well taken care of.
But, your logic evades me; Can a dog behave any other way than as a
dog? A cat? A bird? A mouse? Etc ...


The real enemy after all is the Devil. He is International and
infiltrates
anywhere he finds an empty thought.


The bible brings us stories of another race(s) which are not benign to
the human race. If these stories are true, or not, I do not know. I do
know that behind any "myth", there is always a grain of truth ...
ancient books from India, written on palm leaves bring us stories to
rival Buck Rogers, spacecraft and wars in and out of our atmosphere--I
find it strange that ancient people had such a strong affinity for
science fiction ... it actually boggles my mind; I wonder ...

However, I do not hold any to my own thoughts, or open-mind. And, we
waste a thread which follows the intent of antennas a whole lot more
than our meanderings of mind ... I must make this the end of my story.
Again, if we would agree, I would be bored ... thanks for not boring me.
:-)

Warm regards,
JS

Thanks, It's good to find people that acknowledge history.

Dogs have been brainwashed and bred for specifics in temperament,
appearance, behavior. Cat's seem to resist that and are bred more for
appearance. Humans are more like dogs it seems, except for the capability
to commune with God, and thus be able to raise itself by providence where
the dog just seeks to address basic needs and desires.

You need to find the movie "Idiocracy" on DVD. That will blow you away as
well as any papyrus leaf science-fiction. Some Crude humor, language and
situations resulting from an experiment in suspended animation that goes
awry. A hooker and an Army file clerk are put into suspended animation,
then lost in the shuffle until 500 years later, the Great Garbage avalanche
accidentally releases them in a future where they are the smartest people on
Earth, just in time to save the planet.