JB wrote:
BTW look to John Chapter 8. Seemingly the law is clear but condemnation
isn't required.

That contradicts the Old Testament. Which is true?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
JB wrote:
BTW look to John Chapter 8. Seemingly the law is clear but condemnation
isn't required.

That contradicts the Old Testament. Which is true?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

As Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law, his choice to forgive is what is
true.
The penalty was paid. There was a death for the adultery.
B

Brian Oakley wrote:
As Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law, his choice to forgive is what
is true. The penalty was paid. There was a death for the adultery.

So why is the Old Testament included in The Bible
if Jesus rendered it meaningless and irrelevant?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Brian Oakley wrote:
As Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law, his choice to forgive is what
is true. The penalty was paid. There was a death for the adultery.

So why is the Old Testament included in The Bible
if Jesus rendered it meaningless and irrelevant?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

Not meaningless and irrelevant. The law is to be considered and respected,
but is not the main point. The Jews asked for the law because they were too
afraid of the voice of God. Obedience to his voice would have been more
pleasing. God seems to be in tune with what we need but there is no way we
are going to get in the way of His plans. Jesus was the right hand of God
reaching out to us. If that doesn't strike you with awe, and it is all
meaningless to you, then you have no heart and morality is what you make up
just like the animals. Essentially a "heathen".

And you wonder why children who have been taught they are no more than
"evolved primordial soup" go to school with "Natural Selection" T-shirts and
kill as many as they can for sport. And why abortion is being promoted as a
painless way to make genocide acceptable. I pray America and its people
finds their way back to God before He sends his blessing elsewhere.

As far as Newton's theory... I thought he dealt primarily with forces.
Works well with things like magnetism, gravity and mechanics, but when you
introduce AC and antenna theory, it becomes very complex and the pages start
to fill with Math. Not easy to explain in a news post. I have yet to see
any of the Math in these posts, which speaks to the fact that everyone is
too lazy to do more than talk about it.

JB wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Brian Oakley wrote:
As Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law, his choice to forgive is what
is true. The penalty was paid. There was a death for the adultery.
So why is the Old Testament included in The Bible
if Jesus rendered it meaningless and irrelevant?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

Not meaningless and irrelevant. The law is to be considered and respected,
but is not the main point. The Jews asked for the law because they were too
afraid of the voice of God. Obedience to his voice would have been more
pleasing. God seems to be in tune with what we need but there is no way we
are going to get in the way of His plans. Jesus was the right hand of God
reaching out to us. If that doesn't strike you with awe, and it is all
meaningless to you, then you have no heart and morality is what you make up
just like the animals. Essentially a "heathen".

And you wonder why children who have been taught they are no more than
"evolved primordial soup" go to school with "Natural Selection" T-shirts and
kill as many as they can for sport. And why abortion is being promoted as a
painless way to make genocide acceptable. I pray America and its people
finds their way back to God before He sends his blessing elsewhere.

As far as Newton's theory... I thought he dealt primarily with forces.
Works well with things like magnetism, gravity and mechanics, but when you
introduce AC and antenna theory, it becomes very complex and the pages start
to fill with Math. Not easy to explain in a news post. I have yet to see
any of the Math in these posts, which speaks to the fact that everyone is
too lazy to do more than talk about it.


To Cecil;
Quit baiting the fundamentalists. This is an antenna newsgroup,
not a t.v. evangelist God-is-agonna-gitcha newsgroup.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

"Tom Donaly" wrote in message
...
JB wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Brian Oakley wrote:
As Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law, his choice to forgive is what
is true. The penalty was paid. There was a death for the adultery.
So why is the Old Testament included in The Bible
if Jesus rendered it meaningless and irrelevant?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

Not meaningless and irrelevant. The law is to be considered and
respected,
but is not the main point. The Jews asked for the law because they were
too
afraid of the voice of God. Obedience to his voice would have been more
pleasing. God seems to be in tune with what we need but there is no way
we
are going to get in the way of His plans. Jesus was the right hand of
God
reaching out to us. If that doesn't strike you with awe, and it is all
meaningless to you, then you have no heart and morality is what you make
up
just like the animals. Essentially a "heathen".

And you wonder why children who have been taught they are no more than
"evolved primordial soup" go to school with "Natural Selection" T-shirts
and
kill as many as they can for sport. And why abortion is being promoted
as a
painless way to make genocide acceptable. I pray America and its people
finds their way back to God before He sends his blessing elsewhere.

As far as Newton's theory... I thought he dealt primarily with forces.
Works well with things like magnetism, gravity and mechanics, but when
you
introduce AC and antenna theory, it becomes very complex and the pages
start
to fill with Math. Not easy to explain in a news post. I have yet to
see
any of the Math in these posts, which speaks to the fact that everyone is
too lazy to do more than talk about it.


To Cecil;
Quit baiting the fundamentalists. This is an antenna newsgroup,
not a t.v. evangelist God-is-agonna-gitcha newsgroup.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

Youre right. God isnt out to gitcha.
B

Brian Oakley wrote:
Youre right. God isnt out to gitcha.

You're wrong about that. If God knows what I
am going to do tomorrow then I have no choice
and do not possess free will. If God doesn't
know what I am going to do tomorrow, then He
is not omniscient. QED.
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Brian Oakley wrote:
As Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law, his choice to forgive is what is
true. The penalty was paid. There was a death for the adultery.

So why is the Old Testament included in The Bible
if Jesus rendered it meaningless and irrelevant?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

Because its not meaningless and irrelavent. Its there to show you why Jesus
had to come. He is the fulfillment of the Law. If He is the fullfillment,
then you have to understand what is in the Law and why He had to fulfill it.
The OT is there to point to Jesus in every book.
B

Brian Oakley wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Brian Oakley wrote:
As Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law, his choice to forgive is
what is true. The penalty was paid. There was a death for the adultery.

So why is the Old Testament included in The Bible
if Jesus rendered it meaningless and irrelevant?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

Because its not meaningless and irrelavent. Its there to show you why
Jesus had to come. He is the fulfillment of the Law. If He is the
fullfillment, then you have to understand what is in the Law and why He
had to fulfill it. The OT is there to point to Jesus in every book.
B

Pure heresy! There's no way for you to know whether that is true or
not. You're wasting your time trying to find purpose in religious
scripture. As Alexander Pope wrote in his An Essay on Man: Epistle II:
"Know then thyself, presume not God to scan, The proper study of
mankind is man"
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

"Tom Donaly" wrote in message
...
Brian Oakley wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Brian Oakley wrote:
As Jesus was the fulfillment of the Law, his choice to forgive is
what is true. The penalty was paid. There was a death for the
adultery.

So why is the Old Testament included in The Bible
if Jesus rendered it meaningless and irrelevant?
--
73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com

Because its not meaningless and irrelavent. Its there to show you why
Jesus had to come. He is the fulfillment of the Law. If He is the
fullfillment, then you have to understand what is in the Law and why He
had to fulfill it. The OT is there to point to Jesus in every book.
B

Pure heresy! There's no way for you to know whether that is true or
not. You're wasting your time trying to find purpose in religious
scripture. As Alexander Pope wrote in his An Essay on Man: Epistle II:
"Know then thyself, presume not God to scan, The proper study of
mankind is man"
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

I don't worship Alexander Pope.
I would agree that we can't judge God. We can't even judge ourselves let
alone properly judge each other. There is better love out there than "just
a piece of skin".

Darwin makes quite a leap from finches to "primordial ooze". Even in the
simplest of life forms an orchestra of machinery sustains the life. If any
piece is missing, the life can't be supported. So to believe that all
sprang up by accident, ready to reproduce from a rock seems to be an
unsupported religious belief in itself. But the Atheist will say this is
proof there is no God and leave it at that. Seems unscientific at best, but
then Hitler, Marx, The Columbine Kids and Manifest Destiny all embraced it.
Who's next?