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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
... Then I guess it's a race between rust and galvanic corrosion? The aluminum will prevent the steel from rusting at the expense of its own corrosion. Use synthetic scrubbies (3M ScotchBrite) instead. Bronze or stainless steel wool might be a good material to use. Boaters use it on aluminum. Because boaters do not understand corrosion and electrochemical reactions, they often choose poor materials. Brass is more cathodic than steel, the 400 grade ferritic and martensitic stainless steels are more cathodic than brass, the 300 grade austenitic stainless steels are more cathodic than the 400 grades, and precipitation hardenable stainless steels like 17-4PH lie between 300 and 400 grade stainless in being cathodic. The more anodic a material is, the faster it corrodes. The more cathodic (or noble) a metal is, the slower it corrodes. As I said earlier, I have several good, introductory articles on corrosion and galvanic series that I can send upon request by email. -- 73, Dr. Barry L. Ornitz WA4VZQ |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:41:21 -0400, "Dr. Barry L. Ornitz"
wrote: "Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... Then I guess it's a race between rust and galvanic corrosion? The aluminum will prevent the steel from rusting at the expense of its own corrosion. Use synthetic scrubbies (3M ScotchBrite) instead. Bronze or stainless steel wool might be a good material to use. Boaters use it on aluminum. Because boaters do not understand corrosion and electrochemical reactions, they often choose poor materials. Brass is more cathodic than steel, the 400 grade ferritic and martensitic stainless steels are more cathodic than brass, the 300 grade austenitic stainless steels are more cathodic than the 400 grades, and precipitation hardenable stainless steels like 17-4PH lie between 300 and 400 grade stainless in being cathodic. The more anodic a material is, the faster it corrodes. The more cathodic (or noble) a metal is, the slower it corrodes. As I said earlier, I have several good, introductory articles on corrosion and galvanic series that I can send upon request by email. As I discovered when I did a restoration and rebuild on my sailboat about 10 years ago. All of the original interior woodwork fittings on the boat were held in place by decorative brass screws. As the boat was built in 1971, but the time I got to it in the late 90's all the brass screws had "zincified" (probably not the correct term to a metallurgist, but one that appears in boating literature). This results in the screws having a pinkish color and they become very brittle. Any attempt at removing them resulted in the head breaking off or the Philips cross slot stripping out. I had to remove all of these with a screw removal tool. They were all replaced with coated SS screws, the coating for decorative purposes. At least among sailboaters, who for some reason appear to be more technically savvy than power boaters, galvanic corrosion is pretty well understood at least at a layman's level. Most boat repair books mention this and include the galvanic series and the relative "nobility" of various metals and alloys. Those of us who sail in salt water are also well aware of the need to put sacrificial zincs on our boats to prevent damage to other metal parts. Replacing these is a regular part of our annual maintenance. A very high percentage of sailboaters are also hams, far beyond our normal density in the overall population. Jon W3JT |
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Dr. Barry L. Ornitz wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message ... Then I guess it's a race between rust and galvanic corrosion? The aluminum will prevent the steel from rusting at the expense of its own corrosion. Use synthetic scrubbies (3M ScotchBrite) instead. Bronze or stainless steel wool might be a good material to use. Boaters use it on aluminum. Because boaters do not understand corrosion and electrochemical reactions, they often choose poor materials. Brass is more cathodic than steel, the 400 grade ferritic and martensitic stainless steels are more cathodic than brass, the 300 grade austenitic stainless steels are more cathodic than the 400 grades, and precipitation hardenable stainless steels like 17-4PH lie between 300 and 400 grade stainless in being cathodic. The more anodic a material is, the faster it corrodes. The more cathodic (or noble) a metal is, the slower it corrodes. As I said earlier, I have several good, introductory articles on corrosion and galvanic series that I can send upon request by email. I'd be interested. I'm one of those folks who post an actual address in the newsgroup, so if you would be so kind. Thanks in advance... - 73 de Mike N3LI - |
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