i going to expermint with this just to see how many dtv i can dx and fm
also not shure what kind of ant i should try i was thinking to yagi ant
side by side or the big uhf bay looking type also a channel
master amp

"John Bose" wrote in message
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i going to expermint with this just to see how many dtv i can dx and fm
also not shure what kind of ant i should try i was thinking to yagi ant
side by side or the big uhf bay looking type also a channel
master amp


If you have the money, a yagi antenna for VHF channels 7 - 13 would be my
recommendation for TV. There are also FM yagis. I don't beleive any
so-called "All Channel" antenna will peform as well as an antenna intended
for a limited band.

UHF TV is tricky and unreliable. About the only thing to recommend it is the
high gain antennas tou can build on a smaller boom. In my opinion, VHF 7 -
13 is a better hunting ground.

ok thanks for the tip

Sal M. Onella wrote:
"John Bose" wrote in message
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i going to expermint with this just to see how many dtv i can dx and fm
also not shure what kind of ant i should try i was thinking to yagi ant
side by side or the big uhf bay looking type also a channel
master amp


If you have the money, a yagi antenna for VHF channels 7 - 13 would be my
recommendation for TV. There are also FM yagis. I don't beleive any
so-called "All Channel" antenna will peform as well as an antenna intended
for a limited band.

UHF TV is tricky and unreliable. About the only thing to recommend it is the
high gain antennas tou can build on a smaller boom. In my opinion, VHF 7 -
13 is a better hunting ground.


I lived in Chicago in 1962-63 and DX'ed channel 2 in Miami at 5:30 A.M.
in the winter. Sometimes it pays off and sometimes not. That was back in
the days of test signals, many with the Indian, and I took snapshots of
the screen with my camera. No VCR's back then either.
Bill Baka

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I lived in Chicago in 1962-63 and DX'ed channel 2 in Miami at 5:30 A.M.
in the winter. Sometimes it pays off and sometimes not. That was back in
the days of test signals, many with the Indian, and I took snapshots of
the screen with my camera. No VCR's back then either.

I never did that well. Late night Buffalo NY received in Norfolk VA was my
best (1969). The picture was good enough a bunch of us sat around and
watched the movie!

Norfolk was an interesting location -- just a few local stations in those
days, so it was good for DX. I was at sea level, but I had a 50-foot mast
and no surrounding obstacles.

Channel 5 was funny. With the antenna aimed approx northeast, we got
Channel 5 from Washington DC. Then, without changing the channel, we
rotated CCW and got Channel 5 in Washington again, but it was Washington,
NC, a completely different station.

Sal

On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:45:01 -0700, "Sal M. Onella"
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"Bill" wrote in message
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I lived in Chicago in 1962-63 and DX'ed channel 2 in Miami at 5:30 A.M.
in the winter. Sometimes it pays off and sometimes not. That was back in
the days of test signals, many with the Indian, and I took snapshots of
the screen with my camera. No VCR's back then either.

I never did that well. Late night Buffalo NY received in Norfolk VA was my
best (1969). The picture was good enough a bunch of us sat around and
watched the movie!

Norfolk was an interesting location -- just a few local stations in those
days, so it was good for DX. I was at sea level, but I had a 50-foot mast
and no surrounding obstacles.

Channel 5 was funny. With the antenna aimed approx northeast, we got
Channel 5 from Washington DC. Then, without changing the channel, we
rotated CCW and got Channel 5 in Washington again, but it was Washington,
NC, a completely different station.

Sal


Hi All,

With a small TV antenna from Sears (like Sal, back in the mid 60s), up
5 feet above the roof (split level), on the crest of a hill (6200 feet
in Colorado Springs), I was able to DX Calgary and Edmonton.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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... 6200 feet in Colorado Springs


Now, THAT'S a tower!

Richard Clark wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:45:01 -0700, "Sal M. Onella"
wrote:

"Bill" wrote in message
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I lived in Chicago in 1962-63 and DX'ed channel 2 in Miami at 5:30 A.M.
in the winter. Sometimes it pays off and sometimes not. That was back in
the days of test signals, many with the Indian, and I took snapshots of
the screen with my camera. No VCR's back then either.
I never did that well. Late night Buffalo NY received in Norfolk VA was my
best (1969). The picture was good enough a bunch of us sat around and
watched the movie!

Norfolk was an interesting location -- just a few local stations in those
days, so it was good for DX. I was at sea level, but I had a 50-foot mast
and no surrounding obstacles.

Channel 5 was funny. With the antenna aimed approx northeast, we got
Channel 5 from Washington DC. Then, without changing the channel, we
rotated CCW and got Channel 5 in Washington again, but it was Washington,
NC, a completely different station.

Sal


Hi All,

With a small TV antenna from Sears (like Sal, back in the mid 60s), up
5 feet above the roof (split level), on the crest of a hill (6200 feet
in Colorado Springs), I was able to DX Calgary and Edmonton.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

In California we would call that hill a mountain. DX'ing here is only
north and south since I am in the central valley north of Sacramento,
but I did sometimes get Reno, Nevada. It only worked up to channel 5 and
then 6 and 7 were somewhere higher, then 8 to 13 were too high for any
DX'ing stuff. UHF barely even existed back then unless you got a
converter box, which I did not.

Now I am back to my Hammarlund HQ-129 and an RME DB-20 tuned pre-amp.
The Hammarlund barely needs it but it does help some for getting C.B. on
the top.

Bill Baka

Sal M. Onella wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message
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I lived in Chicago in 1962-63 and DX'ed channel 2 in Miami at 5:30 A.M.
in the winter. Sometimes it pays off and sometimes not. That was back in
the days of test signals, many with the Indian, and I took snapshots of
the screen with my camera. No VCR's back then either.

I never did that well. Late night Buffalo NY received in Norfolk VA was my
best (1969). The picture was good enough a bunch of us sat around and
watched the movie!

Norfolk was an interesting location -- just a few local stations in those
days, so it was good for DX. I was at sea level, but I had a 50-foot mast
and no surrounding obstacles.

Channel 5 was funny. With the antenna aimed approx northeast, we got
Channel 5 from Washington DC. Then, without changing the channel, we
rotated CCW and got Channel 5 in Washington again, but it was Washington,
NC, a completely different station.

Sal


Miami was my best ever. Sometimes I could get WCCO in Minneapolis, Grand
Rapids, Michigan, and a few stations from Iowa. I had the biggest
antenna you could buy with a CDR (real) rotator and a nuvistor amp at
the antenna. Plus a 30' mast on top of the house. A bit over the top for
a 13 year old but it kept me out of trouble and drove my parents nuts to
have the TV turned on at 5:00 A.M. When that was not giving me signals I
went to my room and fired up the Hallicrafters S-108 with a 200' antenna
out to the fence in the back yard. Not ideal but I got the whole world
at one point or another.
I was not your average 13 year old, more like a prototype geek.
Bill Baka