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On 25 jun, 10:00, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Jun 25, 2:13*am, lu6etj wrote: In a TL, instead, total destructive interference in one point would mean energy stop flowing from that point forwards (is it OK say "forwards"?) and reverse its flow direction doubling his value, is it OK?. In our ham transmission line systems, the goal is to accomplish total destructive interference toward the source, i.e. zero reflected energy incident upon the source. So let's talk about destructive interference toward the source and constructive interference toward the load. You name it "redistribution" too, not reflection. By definition, reflection is something that happens to a single wave. By definition, superposition involves two or more waves. The redistribution that I am talking about can include both reflection and superposition if both are present. Depending upon the system configuration, both may be present, both may be absent, or one exist without the other. Well, my question was how we can set (devise) an experiment to get such behaviour in a TL? I've presented it before and it is a simple Z0-match involving a 1/4WL matching section. 50w-----50 ohm------+------1/4WL 300 ohm------1800 ohm load On the source side, rho at '+' is 0.7143 Using a TDR, we can verify that there is indeed a reflection from the 50/300 ohm impedance discontinuity. What happens to that reflection during steady-state? What happens to Vfor1(rho) = 50v(0.7143) = 35.7v? What happens to Pfor1(rho^2) = 50w(0.51) = 25.5w? -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com Sorry. Cecil, I do not catch you (final numeric example), would you mind give to me a more explanatory/explicit answer? (the rest OK). 73 Miguel |
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On Jun 25, 3:27*pm, lu6etj wrote:
Sorry. Cecil, I do not catch you (final numeric example), would you mind give to me a more explanatory/explicit answer? I previously had a senior moment and changed contexts in the middle of a posting and I apologize for any confusion. Would you enlighten me as to the area of the discussion that you don't catch? Do you understand physical reflection and transmission coefficients and their effect on voltage, current, and power? -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com |
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On 27 jun, 11:37, Cecil Moore wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:27*pm, lu6etj wrote: Sorry. Cecil, I do not catch you (final numeric example), would you mind give to me a more explanatory/explicit answer? I previously had a senior moment and changed contexts in the middle of a posting and I apologize for any confusion. Would you enlighten me as to the area of the discussion that you don't catch? Do you understand physical reflection and transmission coefficients and their effect on voltage, current, and power? -- 73, Cecil, w5dxp.com Thanks Cecil: Examples of you that I saw in recent weeks were about interferences generated by a single real generator and reflections, resulting, for example, in constructive/destructive interference responsible of changes in energy flow direction starting from the line point where those interferences occurs. In a nutshell: In post 127 I asked you for an example/experiment based in TWO real generators to assimilate it to more familiar double slit interference phenomenom (TWO coherent sources) rendering energy redistribution inside one dimensional TL space, two sources in tridimensional space gives maximuns and nulls on screen (redistribution). Well, I ask you for identical example in unidimensional space rendering a phenomenom similar as reflection (one wave) but with interference (two waves). Sorry I do not know how better translate my question to english words. I not catched your answer because it does not match my question :) Thank you very much in advance. Miguel - LU6ETJ PS: On Google interface, inside thread's tittle = options you can select fixed text, to correctly see ASCII drawings. |
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