You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna?

YES! i have done that and it works great... even better than
bedsprings because you can make it vertically polarized by feeding in
the right place.

Did u solder a wire from the radio to the window frame? How did you do it?

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On Oct 9, 8:33Â*am, Man-wai Chang wrote:
You meant I could use the aluminum window frames as a big antenna?

YES! Â*i have done that and it works great... even better than
bedsprings because you can make it vertically polarized by feeding in
the right place.

Did u solder a wire from the radio to the window frame? How did you do it?

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just an alligator clip.

On Oct 5, 2:31*am, Art Unwin wrote:
Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier
and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot
of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped
with Bismuth !
Now you can't coat your elements with it but *if you have a solder
bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle
but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the
antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel
along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should
increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi
tho bandwidth may well suffer some what.
What do you think?

testing, 1, 2, 3... can you hear me now??

On Oct 8, 10:46*am, K1TTT wrote:
On Oct 5, 2:31*am, Art Unwin wrote:

Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier
and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot
of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped
with Bismuth !
Now you can't coat your elements with it but *if you have a solder
bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle
but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the
antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel
along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should
increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi
tho bandwidth may well suffer some what.
What do you think?

testing, 1, 2, 3... can you hear me now??

i guess the logjam finally broke. google has been bouncing and
queuing these up for days now!

testing, 1, 2, 3... can you hear me now??

Contact!

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On 10/5/2010 8:06 AM, Jim Higgins wrote:

...
I think the RF current flowing thru the crystallized bismuth will
result in the Peltier occurring and will cause the outer ends of the
elements to become very cold and the inner ends to become very hot and
that the heat will soften the inner portions and the cold will cause
heavy icing on the outer portions weighing them down considerably, the
combination resulting in the elements bending and destroying the
antenna.

You guys are just nuts to consider messing around with a device capable
of emitting Orgone Radiation!

I mean, you may doom yourself to a life of having to use medical
marijuana to alleviate the migraine headaches and pain! Not even
getting into the heavy genetic damage which is likely to occur!

Regards,
JS

I think I will stick with good ole lightweight and relatively cheap Al
You Miny Um.

On 10/5/2010 9:46 AM, R.Scott wrote:
I think I will stick with good ole lightweight and relatively cheap Al
You Miny Um.


Aye! Beer and aluminum! That is the way to go ... grin

Regards,
JS

On 10/5/2010 10:06 AM, Jim Higgins wrote:
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 19:31:38 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
wrote:

Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier
and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot
of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped
with Bismuth !
Now you can't coat your elements with it but if you have a solder
bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle
but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the
antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel
along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should
increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi
tho bandwidth may well suffer some what.
What do you think?

As we all know, you are CLUELESS! And you never check underlying facts.
Never. Ever.



I think the RF current flowing thru the crystallized bismuth will
result in the Peltier occurring and will cause the outer ends of the
elements to become very cold and the inner ends to become very hot and
that the heat will soften the inner portions and the cold will cause
heavy icing on the outer portions weighing them down considerably, the
combination resulting in the elements bending and destroying the
antenna.
`
As the Brothers Guinness said in their famous television ads - "BRILLIANT!!"

tom
K0TAR

On Oct 5, 7:04*pm, tom wrote:
On 10/5/2010 10:06 AM, Jim Higgins wrote:

On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 19:31:38 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin
*wrote:

Antennas usually are made of aluminum as copper is somewhat heavier
and silver and gold is to expensive. Since lead is now banned in a lot
of places especially with solder you can now buy solder that is doped
with Bismuth !
Now you can't coat your elements with it but *if you have a solder
bath you can run copper wire thru it. The bismuth is brittle
but with the underlying copper it is stiff enough to stick it on the
antenna elements. I am assuming that the applied current would travel
along the bismuth coating instead of the aluminum and therefore should
increase gain for antennas that use coupling methods such as the Yagi
tho bandwidth may well suffer some what.
What do you think?

As we all know, you are CLUELESS! *And you never check underlying facts..
* Never. *Ever.



I think the RF current flowing thru the crystallized bismuth will
result in the Peltier occurring and will cause the outer ends of the
elements to become very cold and the inner ends to become very hot and
that the heat will soften the inner portions and the cold will cause
heavy icing on the outer portions weighing them down considerably, the
combination resulting in the elements bending and destroying the
antenna.

`
As the Brothers Guinness said in their famous television ads - "BRILLIANT!!"

tom
K0TAR

Tom, you like many others, feel that your postings are like a private
E mail, but it is not. Your writings
and past postings are available for all to see and judge what sort of
person you are. You continually embarrase yourself. I invite all to
view your past postings to see what manner of man you really are.
As for the Peltier effect that you are referring to, it is you who
needs to check the facts as to who posted that. It certainly was not
I. But if you have the real facts then spit it out to show that you
know them and can prove it, until then you are spitting into the wind.
So Tom back to you. What are the "real" facts that you wish to point
to and be specific with respect to the connecting physics for
supporting data? You may have a open physics book at your side when
responding so you can read up on diamagnetic, levitation, neutrons etc
since it is very clear that you were able to jump semesters at will
leaving large holes in your educational standing which does not allow
you to debate in a reasonable fashion.
OR
You can continue with verbal bullying without
contribution or follow up discussion with other members of the group.