Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of
light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick
the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.

You have been told time and time again that there is no corona in normal
antenna operation.

But is in unnormal operation. When it is seen?

Only when you output kilowatts of power and there is some point in
the antenna where the voltage is very high.

But a radio amateur knows that it is possible to transmit signals with
arbitrarily low power and that the range becomes smaller but it still
works all the time. So even with very low voltages, where there is
no corona, a transmitter still transmits.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of
light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick
the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.

You have been told time and time again that there is no corona in normal
antenna operation.

But is in unnormal operation. When it is seen?

Only when you output kilowatts of power and there is some point in
the antenna where the voltage is very high.

I was asking on the speed of electrons in the conductor.

But a radio amateur knows that it is possible to transmit signals with
arbitrarily low power and that the range becomes smaller but it still
works all the time. So even with very low voltages, where there is
no corona, a transmitter still transmits.

"Leakage current is also any current that flows when the ideal current is
zero".

Real current is not the ideal one.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa3 w wiadomo?ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of
light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick
the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.

You have been told time and time again that there is no corona in normal
antenna operation.

But is in unnormal operation. When it is seen?

Only when you output kilowatts of power and there is some point in
the antenna where the voltage is very high.

I was asking on the speed of electrons in the conductor.

No you were telling that electrons were jumping off the antenna because
of corona, which is nonsense when the transmitter is low power, and
points to an operational problem when the transmitter is high power.

But a radio amateur knows that it is possible to transmit signals with
arbitrarily low power and that the range becomes smaller but it still
works all the time. So even with very low voltages, where there is
no corona, a transmitter still transmits.

"Leakage current is also any current that flows when the ideal current is
zero".

Real current is not the ideal one.

The average Pole may not be stupid, but that does not mean there don't
exist very stupid Poles.

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa? w wiadomo?ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa3 w wiadomo?ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

They jump off from the end (corona) after the time equal to speed of
light.
They do not flow from the transmitter to the end of antenna. They kick
the
next ones. It is the oscillatory flow.

You have been told time and time again that there is no corona in normal
antenna operation.

But is in unnormal operation. When it is seen?

Only when you output kilowatts of power and there is some point in
the antenna where the voltage is very high.

I was asking on the speed of electrons in the conductor.

No you were babbling about electrons jumping off the end of the antenna
yet again.

You have also been told many times that the speed of the electrons in the
conductor is less than a slow crawl.

How stupid are you that you are told these things time and again but
you still can't understand them?

But a radio amateur knows that it is possible to transmit signals with
arbitrarily low power and that the range becomes smaller but it still
works all the time. So even with very low voltages, where there is
no corona, a transmitter still transmits.

"Leakage current is also any current that flows when the ideal current is
zero".

No, leakage current is any current that is flowing in other than the
desired or designed path.

Real current is not the ideal one.

Gibberish; you are a babbling idiot.

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


I was asking on the speed of electrons in the conductor.

No you were babbling about electrons jumping off the end of the antenna
yet again.

You have also been told many times that the speed of the electrons in the
conductor is less than a slow crawl.

The average speed.
The circuit with an antenna was named "open circuit" before Maxwell.
Maxwell discovered that the current is "prolongated" in the insulator
(displacement current) so the all circuits are "closed".
So at the bonduary the electrons must jump off. And come back.
In each textbooks is wrote that electrons jump off from a conductor and come
back.
But sometimes this phenomena is not symmetric.
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


I was asking on the speed of electrons in the conductor.

No you were babbling about electrons jumping off the end of the antenna
yet again.

You have also been told many times that the speed of the electrons in the
conductor is less than a slow crawl.

The average speed.
The circuit with an antenna was named "open circuit" before Maxwell.
Maxwell discovered that the current is "prolongated" in the insulator
(displacement current) so the all circuits are "closed".
So at the bonduary the electrons must jump off. And come back.
In each textbooks is wrote that electrons jump off from a conductor and come
back.
But sometimes this phenomena is not symmetric.
S*

Everything you just wrote is babbling, moronic, nonsense.

You are an ignorant, babbling, ineducable idiot who knows absolutely
NOTHING about how anything works.

How many antennas have you built in your lifetime?

Why do you refuse to answer the question?

Is it because you have built zero antennas and you are trying to say all
the people that have successfully built hundreds that they are all wrong
and you don't want to admit you are an ignorant, inducable, idiot?

Why can't you obtain and read a university level textbook on anything
in any language?

Is it because you are too stupid to be able to understand the material?

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:


I was asking on the speed of electrons in the conductor.

No you were babbling about electrons jumping off the end of the antenna
yet again.

You have also been told many times that the speed of the electrons in the
conductor is less than a slow crawl.

The average speed.
The circuit with an antenna was named "open circuit" before Maxwell.
Maxwell discovered that the current is "prolongated" in the insulator
(displacement current) so the all circuits are "closed".
So at the bonduary the electrons must jump off. And come back.
In each textbooks is wrote that electrons jump off from a conductor and come
back.
But sometimes this phenomena is not symmetric.

You still have not explained how it is possible that the behaviour
is not symmetric and still there is no nonlinearity in the antenna.

"Rob" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa3 w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:


I was asking on the speed of electrons in the conductor.

No you were babbling about electrons jumping off the end of the antenna
yet again.

You have also been told many times that the speed of the electrons in
the
conductor is less than a slow crawl.

The average speed.
The circuit with an antenna was named "open circuit" before Maxwell.
Maxwell discovered that the current is "prolongated" in the insulator
(displacement current) so the all circuits are "closed".
So at the bonduary the electrons must jump off. And come back.
In each textbooks is wrote that electrons jump off from a conductor and
come
back.
But sometimes this phenomena is not symmetric.

You still have not explained how it is possible that the behaviour
is not symmetric and still there is no nonlinearity in the antenna.

The oscillatory flow of electrons is inherently not symmetric.
Always some of them jump off from the antenna end. VSWR =1 means that all
jumps off.

It should be obvious for you if you see the electrons in the wire.
For Pointing there no electrons. There are only fields around the wire.
He wrote: " Formerly a current was regarded as something traveling along a
conductor, attention being chiefly directed to the conductor, and the energy
which appeared at any part of the circuit, if considered at all, was
supposed to be conveyed thither through the conductor by the current. "

And next: "The aim of this paper is to prove that there is a general law for
the transfer of energy, according to which it moves at any point
perpendicularly to the plane containing the lines of electric force and
magnetic force, and that the amount crossing unit of area per second of this
plane is equal to the product of the intensities of the two forces,
multiplied by the sine of the angle between them, divided by , while the
direction of flow of energy is that in which a right-handed screw would move
if turned round from the positive direction of the electromotive to the
positive direction of the magnetic intensity".

The teachers buy it.

Before Haeviside and Pointing was " something traveling along a conductor".
What do you prefer: electrons or fields?
S*

Szczepan Bialek wrote:

"Rob" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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Szczepan Bialek wrote:

napisa3 w wiadomo?ci
...
Szczepan Bialek wrote:


I was asking on the speed of electrons in the conductor.

No you were babbling about electrons jumping off the end of the antenna
yet again.

You have also been told many times that the speed of the electrons in
the
conductor is less than a slow crawl.

The average speed.
The circuit with an antenna was named "open circuit" before Maxwell.
Maxwell discovered that the current is "prolongated" in the insulator
(displacement current) so the all circuits are "closed".
So at the bonduary the electrons must jump off. And come back.
In each textbooks is wrote that electrons jump off from a conductor and
come
back.
But sometimes this phenomena is not symmetric.

You still have not explained how it is possible that the behaviour
is not symmetric and still there is no nonlinearity in the antenna.

The oscillatory flow of electrons is inherently not symmetric.

You keep claiming that. But you don't explain why there is no
nonlinearity in the antenna. When the antenna is nonlinear, as you
claim, there must be intermodulation in the antenna. But in a well
constructed antenna, there is no intermodulation. So there is
no unsymmetric flow of electrons.

I don't care what people have written in the 19th century. Please
stop bringing that up. I am only interested in how things are
explained today.