Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 2/14/2015 7:57 PM, wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

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(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.

I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.

Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Like you...

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.

The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


Not entirely. There was also the fact that many people were using slow
modem connections and were being charged by the byte (which is still
true in some parts of the world today). HTML unnecessarily increased
download time and bytes transferred.

As does not snipping previous diaglog...

Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


Not necessarily. Some news servers don't accept any attachments; others
don't accept binary attachments.

If an attachment is uuencoded, a news server doesn't know what the
attachment is. The majority of the prohibitions against attachments
were on a group basis and enforced by a UDP for blatant repeat offenders.


There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.



And many news servers don't cary many of the alt.* groups. They're not
as well supported as the big eight.

Which is but one of the effects of there being no "prohibitive bureaucratic
mechanisms" applied to the alt. groups.


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Jim Pennino

On 2/14/2015 9:22 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 2/14/2015 7:57 PM, wrote:
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Rob wrote:

snip

(who prohibited HTML, attachments, etc and delayed the creation of
newsgroups by prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms)

If you actually knew anything about USENET and it's history, you wouldn't
be asking such questions.

I am on usenet since about 1994 and I have seen the "all postings should
be plaintext 80-column format" debates more than often enough.

Only since 1994; a newbee then.


Like you...

When HTML was suggested to allow markup and MIME was invented to allow
attachements, it was forbidden by the usenet people. This made those
that did not grow up with 80-character ASCII terminals leave the scene
in disgust. Pity.

The idea that USENET should be ASCII comes from the desire that it be
usable with ANY terminal out there. There are STILL lots of ASCII
only newreaders out there. A lot of people do not use web browsers
to interact with USENET.


Not entirely. There was also the fact that many people were using slow
modem connections and were being charged by the byte (which is still
true in some parts of the world today). HTML unnecessarily increased
download time and bytes transferred.

As does not snipping previous diaglog...


I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.


Attachments have ALWAYS been allowed if uuencoded; all real newsreaders
support uuencode/uudecode.


Not necessarily. Some news servers don't accept any attachments; others
don't accept binary attachments.

If an attachment is uuencoded, a news server doesn't know what the
attachment is. The majority of the prohibitions against attachments
were on a group basis and enforced by a UDP for blatant repeat offenders.


Once again you show your ignorance.


There are NO "prohibitive bureaucratic mechanisms" for the alt. groups
and it is blazingly obvious to the most casual observer what that
leads too.



And many news servers don't cary many of the alt.* groups. They're not
as well supported as the big eight.

Which is but one of the effects of there being no "prohibitive bureaucratic
mechanisms" applied to the alt. groups.



No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.

And he is off and running...

snip

No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.

Point totally missed as usual as Jerry Stuckle the magnificent climbs
atop his high horse off to tilt at "trolls".



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Jim Pennino

On 2/15/2015 2:21 AM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.

And he is off and running...

snip

No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.

Point totally missed as usual as Jerry Stuckle the magnificent climbs
atop his high horse off to tilt at "trolls".




The shoe fits...

But then trolls don't like me. And I really don't care.

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Jerry, AI0K

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 2/15/2015 2:21 AM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.

And he is off and running...

snip

No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.

Point totally missed as usual as Jerry Stuckle the magnificent climbs
atop his high horse off to tilt at "trolls".




The shoe fits...

Non sequitur.


But then trolls don't like me. And I really don't care.


Not everything is about you.


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Jim Pennino

On 2/15/2015 2:22 PM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 2/15/2015 2:21 AM, wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

I snipped what I deemed was appropriate. Sorry if that doesn't suit the
trolls.

And he is off and running...

snip

No, it's because most of the news servers don't want trolls creating
thousands of newsgroups which aren't used.

Point totally missed as usual as Jerry Stuckle the magnificent climbs
atop his high horse off to tilt at "trolls".




The shoe fits...

Non sequitur.


I knew you wouldn't understand. But everyone else here did. Such are
trolls.


But then trolls don't like me. And I really don't care.


Not everything is about you.



Nope, but your trolling here is.

And you are all about trolling.

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

I knew you wouldn't understand. But everyone else here did. Such are
trolls.

trolls trolls trolls...

Here a troll, there a troll, EVERYWHERE a troll..



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Jim Pennino