Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#30
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Jerry Martes wrote:
It might be that I'm wrong with my conclusion that when receiving, the loss of received signal wont be appreciably worsened by VSWRs as high as, say, 3:1, when the line atenuation is under a couple DB. But I dont think I've been confused about the Line to Load Mismatch and VSWR. As long as we make sure the readers understand we're talking about the actual SWR on the transmission line, that's true for both transmitting and receiving. I recognize that the lowest VSWR and lowest line loss and the lowest noise figure are all important. If the VSWR and (matched) line loss are roughly within the bounds you mentioned, the transmission line VSWR isn't really important, since the extra loss it causes is generally negligible. However, as I somewhat indirectly mentioned earlier, the match between the antenna and its load determine the amount of signal that gets to the receiver. And as Ian has mentioned, the receiver noise figure might be best when the receiver is mismatched to the source impedance it sees. Further qualifying the matter is the fact that at HF, losing signal when receiving due to mismatch, line loss or SWR doesn't impact the signal/noise ratio unless the attenuation is very great, since the dominant atmospheric noise is attenuated by the same factor. I do realize, though, that the original posting was directed toward VHF or above, where those things do matter. Since I'm always working with systems that arent perfect, I dont get concerned with low VSWR when working with receivers except when there is need for phasing arrays. It is my understanding that the transmission line loss isnt increased excessively when the line loss is under about 2 DB and the VSWR is as high as 3:1, and that S-meter readings arent measureably degraded when the receiver sees these signals thats not coming in with a 50 ohm internal impedance. It occurred to me that the original poster of this "Phasing Harness" might have some sophisticated need for phase or low mismatch. If the two antennas being harnessed are only to maximize radiation toward the horizon, I'd consider the question a simple one to answer. ie Feed them in phase with any convenient equal lengths of line. If bandwidth is a factor, expect sidelobes to vary with frequency. But, my knowledge and experience is very limited, so any 'redirection' of my thinking is appreciated. Your thinking looks fine to me. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Forum | |||
Inverted ground plane antenna: compared with normal GP and low dipole. | Antenna | |||
Mobile Ant L match ? | Antenna | |||
Poor quality low + High TV channels? How much dB in Preamp? | Antenna | |||
QST Article: An Easy to Build, Dual-Band Collinear Antenna | Antenna |