Thanks all,

My idea was the push or the big brother (in receivith of a bribith) to force
us here in Ontario to change our smoke detectors every 5 years. It may even
be so written into the insurance laws (or fine print on page 62 on bottom of
incurance form) (in japanese) that the insurance company will not pay out
in the event of fire and your detectors are out of date according to the
provincial code. The insurance agents always inspect for cause to back out.

But what is happening in Ontario (in my city now) is the fire department
going door to door inspecting. Now get this. If you do not have a Carbon
Monoxide Tester on Every floor and IN Garage (if attached) then they cannot
leave until you do. Now they will sell you them off their truck and it is
$41.00 Canadian each. I know this because they are in my friend's
neighborhood and he has single floor and was forced to buy one. $41.00 on
the spot. Now, he gave me name and model number and exact same one can be
shipped to your door from the Ebay or Amazon for $12.00 Canadian.

Smoke detectors as well. Our big brother nanny state, the now most expensive
on the planet, is growing at an alarming rate and I could tell you a hundred
more ridiculous and expensive stupidity my govt is doing but this is an
idea.

So why would a Deep Cycle Battery Manufacturer make a batter last longer
than time frame that they couldn't calculate within their projected income
reports? I mean you own a boat. And why would a Smoke Detector Company
manufacture you a detector that would last the lifetime of the home? It
wouldn't be prudent.

You don't think that the big pharma companies are counting on our big
brother health care team of doctors here in Ontario to continue pushing big
pharma pills and keeping the people swallowing these pills at an alarming
rate? We have a prescription pill for everything today and our insurance
govt regulated and created companies pay for it all, after borrowing of
course etc etc. Same ole same ole. I guarantee the pharma giants are
banking on us swallowing hand fills of their hugely profitable pills for
decades and quarters to come. I mean how do you stop a 2 trillion per year
industry. Answer, you don't.

Thanks boys, sorry about the long wind, love what I learned about smoke
detectors. Thanks. But here in Ontario, the need for replacement is
different than your need down south. It is not solely how much value or
price you would put on your families head. A Huge waste factor is there.
That is the scare marketing the teams will use. And use successfully.

73s



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rickman wrote:
On 6/12/2015 2:25 PM, wrote:
rickman wrote:
So what makes you think you need to replace a smoke detector every 5
years? I had units in my house that lasted over 20 years.

Likely a dusty environment.

You mean *not* a dusty environment? These were AC units and most likely
died from a power surge. This house is in the boonies where voltage
surges are more common because of the long reaches.

I mean a dusty environment causes a shorter life.

Aren't most houses about the same level of dust? Being upside down on
the ceiling helps keep the crap out. My PCs pick up tons more dust.

The dust level in any given house is going to depend on a whole bunch
of factors; where it is, local winds, what is in the interior, presence
or absence and efficiency of whole house filters, number of people, number
of pets, etc.

On the other hand, I have not seen a CO2 detector for near the price of
a smoke detector. Are they really so inexpensive?

You mean CO detector.

Yes, of course.

My detector rolled over yesterday; full of dust and crap.

In Lowes I found battery powered, stand alone CO and smoke detectors
starting out at about $20, battery powered, stand alone combo CO/smoke
detectors starting at about $50.

High end, network enabled models for a bit more, hardwired dumb models
a bit less.

I have always been able to find battery powered smoke detectors for $10.
Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot...

So was I until yesterday...

--
Jim Pennino