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"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
... gareth wrote: "Wayne" wrote in message ... "The antenna, like the eye, is a transformation device converting electromagnetic photons into circuit currents; but, unlike the eye, the antenna can also convert energy from a circuit into photons radiated into space. In simplest terms an antenna converts photons to currents or vice versa." Antennas, Second Edition, 1988, by John D. Kraus. Page 19. IMHO, antennae do not radiate photons. and the misunderstanding arises from the photons that are generated from electrons shifting to lower energy orbits around atoms. In tha case of currents within antennae, the energy is the potential energy brought about by compressing electrons against each other, against their inherent mutual repulsion, and is a different mechanism than that which generates photons. You come a little late to this discussion. Perhaps you would like to explain, on the basis of your theory that there are two kinds of electromagnetic radiation based on the means of their generation, how you tell which kind of em radiation you are observing, the one which also exists as photons or the one that doesn't? Preferably show the answer mathematically. Insofar as you make a mathematical challenge, perhaps you could deal with some simpler numerical queries ... How many complete cycles make up one of your RF photons? What is the formula for the amplitude envelope of your RF photon? As there is no maser mechanism in a dipole antenna, what is the mechanism that ensures that all of your RF photons are coherent? If the RF photons are not coherent, then why is no amplitude and phase distortion apparent on a single unmodulated carrier wave? |
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gareth wrote:
"Roger Hayter" wrote in message ... gareth wrote: "Wayne" wrote in message ... "The antenna, like the eye, is a transformation device converting electromagnetic photons into circuit currents; but, unlike the eye, the antenna can also convert energy from a circuit into photons radiated into space. In simplest terms an antenna converts photons to currents or vice versa." Antennas, Second Edition, 1988, by John D. Kraus. Page 19. IMHO, antennae do not radiate photons. and the misunderstanding arises from the photons that are generated from electrons shifting to lower energy orbits around atoms. In tha case of currents within antennae, the energy is the potential energy brought about by compressing electrons against each other, against their inherent mutual repulsion, and is a different mechanism than that which generates photons. You come a little late to this discussion. Perhaps you would like to explain, on the basis of your theory that there are two kinds of electromagnetic radiation based on the means of their generation, how you tell which kind of em radiation you are observing, the one which also exists as photons or the one that doesn't? Preferably show the answer mathematically. Insofar as you make a mathematical challenge, perhaps you could deal with some simpler numerical queries ... How many complete cycles make up one of your RF photons? The question shows an utter lack of understanding wave-particle duality and makes as much sense as asking how many rib bones are in a gallon of ice cream. What is the formula for the amplitude envelope of your RF photon? The question shows an utter lack of understanding of the particle properties of electromagnetic radiation. A photon has only energy and asking about an amplitude envelope makes as much sense as asking how many rib bones are in a gallon of ice cream. As there is no maser mechanism in a dipole antenna, what is the mechanism that ensures that all of your RF photons are coherent? The question shows an utter lack of understanding of the funcition of an antenna. An antenna has nothing to do with the spectral qualities of the electromagnetic radiation and the question makes as much sense as asking how many rib bones are in a gallon of ice cream. If the RF photons are not coherent, then why is no amplitude and phase distortion apparent on a single unmodulated carrier wave? The question shows an utter lack of understanding of what "coherent" means. A single unmodulated carrier wave is coherent by definition. -- Jim Pennino |
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