How is it I get the feeling they are not trying to develope the remotely
tunable antenna. Seem to me someone just wants to have the patent on the
idea


Huh?
They developed it, making it and selling like a hotcakes. That's the idea, to
have a patent on the idea for terrific product!

Yuri, K3BU

"Yuri Blanarovich" wrote in message
...

How is it I get the feeling they are not trying to develope the remotely
tunable antenna. Seem to me someone just wants to have the patent on the
idea


Huh?
They developed it, making it and selling like a hotcakes. That's the idea,
to
have a patent on the idea for terrific product!

Yuri, K3BU

No, the idea is to invent something, make it, sell it like hotcakes, and
then sell the business when all the me-too's show up. The patent is just a
very time-consuming & expensive official license to sue whoever appears to
be improperly competing with you. Your lawyer may not help you with circuit
design, but he will advise that you go for a patent.

Ed
wb6wsn

They developed it, making it and selling like a hotcakes. That's the idea,
to
have a patent on the idea for terrific product!

Yuri, K3BU

No, the idea is to invent something, make it, sell it like hotcakes, and
then sell the business when all the me-too's show up. The patent is just a
very time-consuming & expensive official license to sue whoever appears to
be improperly competing with you. Your lawyer may not help you with circuit
design, but he will advise that you go for a patent.

Ed
wb6wsn



You can file patent yourself and it doesn't have to be very time and money
consuming. In some situations it is worth it (Laser) in many situations patents
remain unutilized. Often it is deterrent to me-too's and if you have a lawyer
in the family, it could be reasonable.

Yuri

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 02:16:42 -0700, "Ed Price"
wrote:

Your lawyer may not help you with circuit
design, but he will advise that you go for a patent.

Hi Ed,

You forgot to ad that patents are ego certificates. As for circuit
design advice, my lawyer could do that. He also had degrees in
chemistry and mechanical engineering. However, he never intruded into
anything but the legal claims language which he could craft with the
baroque style of the best of them. I think I average 200 for each of
my patents.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

"Yuri Blanarovich" wrote in message
...

How is it I get the feeling they are not trying to develope the remotely
tunable antenna. Seem to me someone just wants to have the patent on the
idea


Huh?
They developed it, making it and selling like a hotcakes. That's the idea,
to
have a patent on the idea for terrific product!

Yuri, K3BU
Really, didnt know the things were on the market.

www.steppir.com

Alan NV8A


On 08/23/04 04:23 pm Jimmie put fingers to keyboard and launched the
following message into cyberspace:

How is it I get the feeling they are not trying to develope the remotely
tunable antenna. Seem to me someone just wants to have the patent on the
idea

Huh?
They developed it, making it and selling like a hotcakes. That's the idea,

to

have a patent on the idea for terrific product!

Really, didnt know the things were on the market.

There are other remote control antennas that have been patented. In fact
there is a patent already in the mix that uses exactly the same method as
the STEPPER that was printed in RADCOM several years ago.What exactly did
the new patent claim?
Art
"Minnie Bannister" wrote in message
...
www.steppir.com

Alan NV8A


On 08/23/04 04:23 pm Jimmie put fingers to keyboard and launched the
following message into cyberspace:

How is it I get the feeling they are not trying to develope the
remotely
tunable antenna. Seem to me someone just wants to have the patent on
the
idea

Huh?
They developed it, making it and selling like a hotcakes. That's the
idea,

to

have a patent on the idea for terrific product!

Really, didnt know the things were on the market.

The links to the patent application for the SteppIR are in the original
post that started this thread. *Perhaps* what was new was the
microprocessor control unit that can sit between the rig and the antenna
and readjust the antenna as the rig is tuned. But since I haven't seen
the RadCom one to which you refer, I don't *know* what is new in the
SteppIR.

Alan NV8A


On 08/23/04 09:26 pm put fingers to keyboard and
launched the following message into cyberspace:

There are other remote control antennas that have been patented. In fact
there is a patent already in the mix that uses exactly the same method as
the STEPPER that was printed in RADCOM several years ago.What exactly did
the new patent claim?

www.steppir.com

Alan,
the article in RADCOM (UK) described the moveable radiator as a loop of
material half of which contained a copper strip and the loop of material was
driven by a motor such that the copper length was resonant.
Now a stepper motor is still an electrical motor which turns the shaft in a
series of steps which is nothing unusual.
The use of a microprocessor to run a stepper motor is also normal as well as
a comparitor system to control the length of the radiators to maintain
resonance. There is also prior use of where the motors are enclosed and also
controlled remotely.
Roy makes the point that the design in its entirety was the main claim which
appears to be in the design patent bracket. Thus it would appear that the
patent design in its entirety is protected which to my mind makes it one of
the most weakest things to claim court protection but that is just my
opinion. For amateurs who make their own antennas a patent does not really
have any powers unless manufacture is a business.
It seems these days that those who move fast and take the cream and then
quickly fade away can easily beat any justice system that reqiures a lot of
cash and a strong push to get it moving on ones behalf. It is like the'
pursuit of happiness' statement which gives one only the right to pursue but
not to attain happiness"
ART
Minnie Bannister" wrote in message
...
The links to the patent application for the SteppIR are in the original
post that started this thread. *Perhaps* what was new was the
microprocessor control unit that can sit between the rig and the antenna
and readjust the antenna as the rig is tuned. But since I haven't seen
the RadCom one to which you refer, I don't *know* what is new in the
SteppIR.

Alan NV8A


On 08/23/04 09:26 pm put fingers to keyboard and
launched the following message into cyberspace:

There are other remote control antennas that have been patented. In fact
there is a patent already in the mix that uses exactly the same method
as
the STEPPER that was printed in RADCOM several years ago.What exactly
did
the new patent claim?

www.steppir.com

wrote:
. . .
Roy makes the point that the design in its entirety was the main claim which
appears to be in the design patent bracket. . .

The term "design patent" refers to a kind of patent that applies to an
esthetic design, such as a unique shape for a vase or the classic
Coca-Cola bottle. The patent in question isn't a design patent (even
though the claims describe a whole system) but a "utility patent".
Design and utility patents are different critters. Each has its own
sequence of numbers, and I believe they have different application
processes. When a technical person speaks of a patent, he or she almost
always means a utility patent.

I know this to be true only for U.S. patents; I don't know about the
rules or terminology used in other countries. You can find more
information about the two distinct kinds of U.S. patents at the USPTO
website.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL