On 9/16/2015 5:10 AM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/15/2015 2:55 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

He is a troll, pure and simple, and has been at it since 1997.

I won't argue that point one bit. But it is an effective troll only
because others argue with him rather than simply discuss. Most of those
who argue with him are actually being trolls themselves, not unlike a
group gathering around a fight cheering it on, being part of the reason to
fight in the first place.

And now, by resorting to personal attacks, you yourself become the troll

In the 21 years since 1994 that I have been a subscriber to amateur radio
NGs, there
has been neither any trolls, nor the origination of personal attacks by me.


ROFLMAO! That's the funniest line I've heard this entire year! But
then delusional people actually believe things like this.

snip

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On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:09:15 +0100, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:

On 9/16/2015 5:10 AM, gareth wrote:
"rickman" wrote in message
...
On 9/15/2015 2:55 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

He is a troll, pure and simple, and has been at it since 1997.

I won't argue that point one bit. But it is an effective troll only
because others argue with him rather than simply discuss. Most of
those
who argue with him are actually being trolls themselves, not unlike a
group gathering around a fight cheering it on, being part of the
reason to
fight in the first place.

And now, by resorting to personal attacks, you yourself become the troll

In the 21 years since 1994 that I have been a subscriber to amateur
radio
NGs, there
has been neither any trolls, nor the origination of personal attacks by
me.


ROFLMAO! That's the funniest line I've heard this entire year! But
then delusional people actually believe things like this.

snip


Oh dear, the loons are out again.


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Bah, and indeed, Humbug

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:59 -0400, rickman wrote:

On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.

So why are you enabling?

Frustration. You may have missed what rec.radio.amateur.antenna was
like before he arrived. There were a fair collection of very
knowledgeable experts present, that were able to answer most
questions. There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling. I was involved with several
people reverse engineering an MFJ-1800 antenna. I won't claim to be
anywhere near as knowledgeable as these people. I read, I learned, I
tried to answer a few questions, and I made a fool of myself
displaying my ignorance in a few areas.

Today, these people are gone or hiding. Nothing of any technical
interest has appeared for many months. We are now blessed with
discussions of quantum physics, which have no relevance to antenna
design. We are deluged with stupid questions by Gareth which rapidly
morph into discussions about the details of Gareth's perceived
persecutions. I have yet to see any calculations or real antennas.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!activity/rec.radio.amateur.antenna/xnXlqNH1MAAJ

I just hate to see graffiti on a wall, garbage in the streets, and
Gareth in this newsgroup. Staying quiet hasn't worked, so I decided
it was worth one last try, which apparently has failed. Yes, I became
part of the problem, but I think it was worth the risk. Too bad it
didn't work.

I'm not sure what to next. I'll probably just resort to selectively
reading posts by those that I know are knowledgeable and have
something to offer. I also have a real live genuine antenna problem
that I can't solve. I'm not ready to post it yet, but soon.

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

I don't know. Neither shoving a mirror in his face or ignoring him
seems to be working. My current solution is to simply add a filter to
Forte Agent newsreader, that reduces the number of acceptable cross
posted newsgroups from my current 3 to 1 for this group. Since Gareth
likes a large and unwilling audience for dramas, that should drop any
threads he originates.
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.php#BAF8BFCB74FE9B17852571C0000D3065

No follow ups please. It's not worth the effort.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 9/16/2015 1:27 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:38:59 -0400, rickman wrote:

On 9/15/2015 1:21 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:19:32 +0100, "gareth"
wrote:

Is it the purpose of this and other NGs merely to act as a forum for the
congenitally abusive duet from that corner of Kent to vent their spleens in
a crescendo of ever-increasing attention-seeking bile?

The purpose of the three cross posted newsgroups are to act as a stage
for you to act out your victim drama.

So why are you enabling?

Frustration. You may have missed what rec.radio.amateur.antenna was
like before he arrived. There were a fair collection of very
knowledgeable experts present, that were able to answer most
questions. There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling. I was involved with several
people reverse engineering an MFJ-1800 antenna. I won't claim to be
anywhere near as knowledgeable as these people. I read, I learned, I
tried to answer a few questions, and I made a fool of myself
displaying my ignorance in a few areas.

Today, these people are gone or hiding. Nothing of any technical
interest has appeared for many months. We are now blessed with
discussions of quantum physics, which have no relevance to antenna
design. We are deluged with stupid questions by Gareth which rapidly
morph into discussions about the details of Gareth's perceived
persecutions. I have yet to see any calculations or real antennas.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!activity/rec.radio.amateur.antenna/xnXlqNH1MAAJ

I just hate to see graffiti on a wall, garbage in the streets, and
Gareth in this newsgroup. Staying quiet hasn't worked, so I decided
it was worth one last try, which apparently has failed. Yes, I became
part of the problem, but I think it was worth the risk. Too bad it
didn't work.

I'm not sure what to next. I'll probably just resort to selectively
reading posts by those that I know are knowledgeable and have
something to offer. I also have a real live genuine antenna problem
that I can't solve. I'm not ready to post it yet, but soon.

What is the best way to handle this? Ignore him... no?

I don't know. Neither shoving a mirror in his face or ignoring him
seems to be working. My current solution is to simply add a filter to
Forte Agent newsreader, that reduces the number of acceptable cross
posted newsgroups from my current 3 to 1 for this group. Since Gareth
likes a large and unwilling audience for dramas, that should drop any
threads he originates.
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.php#BAF8BFCB74FE9B17852571C0000D3065

No follow ups please. It's not worth the effort.

Too long, didn't read...

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Rick

Can I suggest people remove the moderation group when responding to
this thread.

One of Evans' ploys is to crosspost to unrelated groups to spread his
poison. No point in helping him.

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Indeed, he seems to have been screaming for attention all day. No doubt he
will continue this evening.
Is it any wonder his vapourware projects never progress and he never
actually seems to improve his knowledge, beyond learning a few 'buzz
words' to initiate his goading threads. Such negative displacement
activity probably accounts for his failures.

Once again, Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, the sole purpose of your post is to vent
your spleen
in a personal attack; an attack that is confabulated and false and that has
nothing to
do with amateur radio or to these NGs.

Why do you continue to behave in that manner that all grown-ups left behind
in the kindergarten school?

"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
...
There were also very interesting discussions, on such
things as fractal antennas and modeling.


Once again your post is a thinly-disguised vehicle for an infantile personal
attack, and
shame on you for that.

However, in the light of your comment above that I have quoted, why do you
not
find the discussions to be of interest that I introduce for two reasons,
firstly because
the points interest me , and secondly to enliven an almost-dead group?

I never originate any abusive remarks in the manner that you exhibit.

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Can I suggest people remove the moderation group when responding to this
thread.
One of Evans' ploys is to crosspost to unrelated groups to spread his
poison. No point in helping him.

Once again, Brian, M3OSN, Old Chum, your post is nobbut a vehicle for you to
vent your spleen
in confabulated and false personal attacks.

Why do you behave like that, in the manner of a 5-year-old in the
kindergarten playground?

Perhaps you failed to notice that my OP in this thread was very much to
criticise you in person for the very
reason that you illustrate above?

Have you nothing of relevance to these NG to contribute?

On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:51:25 -0400, rickman wrote:

Too long, didn't read...

"Sorry, but I didn't have time to make it shorter."
(Blaise Pascal, Mark Twain, and others).

"Nothing of importance has ever been said on one line"
(Me)

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:51:25 -0400, rickman wrote:

Too long, didn't read...

"Sorry, but I didn't have time to make it shorter."
(Blaise Pascal, Mark Twain, and others).

"Nothing of importance has ever been said on one line"
(Me)

"The drinks are on the house."


--
Jim Pennino