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A survey of the posts from STC over the past 3 years will find nothing of
value,
even a confusion between sidetone and sideband,
but hundreds of gratuitously abusive remarks; remarks for which someone
described
him as a narcissistic sociopath.


And being a sociopath, he will not be consciously aware of the manner in
which
his behaviour is seen as aggressive and destructive, and in response to any
criticism will
latch on to that criticism as the attention that he so desperatey seeks by a
further issue
of abusive remarks.



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On 10/14/2015 7:23 PM, rickman wrote:
On 10/14/2015 3:08 PM, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
"gareth" wrote:
What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259
if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between
two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is
sound.


Gareth Alun Evans G4SDW, four decade plus radio amateur, lifelong pursuer
of "technical excellence", and "polymath".

Jesus wept.


This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


Didn't you suggest that I resist replying to such posts? Shame on you
for your hypocrisy.
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:23:35 -0400, rickman wrote:

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


How about 'To turn uk.r.a. into a cesspit.' ?



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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:23:35 -0400, rickman wrote:

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
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How about 'To turn uk.r.a. into a cesspit.' ?


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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:23:35 -0400, rickman wrote:

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


Are you surprised though?



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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:23:35 -0400, rickman wrote:

This was a nice little discussion until you showed up. What is your
intent exactly?


Are you surprised though?


No, because a sociopath is not consciously aware of the damage that he does.


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"gareth" wrote in message
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What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259 if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.



.... and thereby hangs a tale ...


I have a large soldering iron which has proved to be dangerous in use,
because the
bit falls out and could not be resolved, until, that is, this morning when I
relaised that
if I jammed some hook-up wire into the hole in parallel with the bit then
the problem
could be resolved.

Result; one soldered PL259

Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but thanks
for all the
positively social hints and tips!


And the moral of this story? ... _NEVER_ buy any tools with the "Draper"
brand.


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On 15/10/2015 09:09, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
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What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259 if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.



.... and thereby hangs a tale ...


I have a large soldering iron which has proved to be dangerous in use,
because the
bit falls out and could not be resolved, until, that is, this morning when I
relaised that
if I jammed some hook-up wire into the hole in parallel with the bit then
the problem
could be resolved.

Result; one soldered PL259

Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but thanks
for all the
positively social hints and tips!


And the moral of this story? ... _NEVER_ buy any tools with the "Draper"
brand.




If you really must use them you can now obtain compression fit UHF
connectors from most good suppliers. Far more reliable than buggering
about with big soldering irons and much quicker to apply. For an example
see ebay item 290800326125.

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A. non Eyemouse wrote:
On 15/10/2015 09:09, gareth wrote:
"gareth" wrote in message
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What's the solution to soldering through to the underlying braid in a
PL259 if the only
soldering iron small enough to engage the holes is a low-power jobbie?

Perchance the solution lies in using a junior hacksaw to make a slot
between two of the holes
so the big iron can get in there?

This is for an outdoors connection, so I want to ensure that it is sound.



.... and thereby hangs a tale ...


I have a large soldering iron which has proved to be dangerous in use,
because the
bit falls out and could not be resolved, until, that is, this morning when I
relaised that
if I jammed some hook-up wire into the hole in parallel with the bit then
the problem
could be resolved.

Result; one soldered PL259

Must close now because my aerail rigger is due in half an hour, but thanks
for all the
positively social hints and tips!


And the moral of this story? ... _NEVER_ buy any tools with the "Draper"
brand.




If you really must use them you can now obtain compression fit UHF
connectors from most good suppliers. Far more reliable than buggering
about with big soldering irons and much quicker to apply. For an example
see ebay item 290800326125.


Right!
I recently bought one for a short jumper cable to adapt from PL-259
to N female (and have some flexibility at the same time) and those
connectors not only are much easier to fit but also connect much more
reliably.
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On 15/10/2015 12:22, Rob wrote:
A. non Eyemouse wrote:


If you really must use them [PL259s]you can now obtain compression fit UHF
connectors from most good suppliers. Far more reliable than buggering
about with big soldering irons and much quicker to apply. For an example
see ebay item 290800326125.


Right!


WHS

The Napoleonic work-creation employed in getting candidate licence
holders to solder PL259s roughly equates to making the potential user of
an MP3 player get a certificate of competence in how to use wind-up
gramophones, but with rather more H&S risks involved. IOW, it's as
ridiculous as making them wire a mains plug, when all they'll do is buy
factory-made gear that has by law for the last 25 years had to have a
mains plug pre-fitted. Perhaps it's something to do with the M3-popular
4kW 'burners'.

Rather than all this farting and flapping about with the totally
unnecessary, it'd be easier and cheaper to get a HAREC from, say, the
IRTS single-sitting single exam. A UK (Reciprocal) Full licence obtained
on the strength of it is indistinguishable over the air from any other
UK Full licence.

I recently bought one for a short jumper cable to adapt from PL-259
to N female (and have some flexibility at the same time) and those
connectors not only are much easier to fit but also connect much more
reliably.



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