Spike wrote:
On 22/05/2016 08:14, Ian Jackson wrote:
Stephen Thomas Cole writes

I can honestly say that the only people I have ever heard use the word
"boffin" are tabloid newspaper journalists, usually in stories about
cloning sheep or GM food.

And now you. Congratulations!

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!

Don't concern yourself OM, 'Band seems to live in a very narrow world,
perhaps only as wide as the distance between his ears.



Did you buy car aerials in bulk, OM, or did Halfords give you a Repeat
Buyer discount?

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http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Roger Hayter wrote:
Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Stephen Thomas Cole
writes
Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:

On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jeff writes

Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

[uk.radio.amateur added]

Yes, I think it has more to do wtth the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.


I can honestly say that the only people I have ever heard use the word
"boffin" are tabloid newspaper journalists, usually in stories about
cloning sheep or GM food.

And now you. Congratulations!

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!


I've never heard a "real person" say it, other than Rog, ITT!

Since I only quoted it, in inverted commas, from Ian, that seems a bit
unobservant of you.


Heavens, so it is! Yours was the first post in the thread I'd bothered to
read, my sincere apologies for the confusion. My point stands, though, this
thread is still the first time I can recall "boffin" being used outside of
a tabloid newspaper! Ian, for shame!

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On 22/05/16 08:49, Spike wrote:
On 21/05/2016 23:45, Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:
On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

Yes, I think it has more to do with the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.

Ian, I think you've just been savaged by a dead sheep.



Oh dear, calling Roger (your tame moderator) a dead sheep isn't nice.

On 22/05/16 10:27, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:
Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Stephen Thomas Cole
writes
Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:

On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jeff writes

Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

[uk.radio.amateur added]

Yes, I think it has more to do wtth the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.


I can honestly say that the only people I have ever heard use the word
"boffin" are tabloid newspaper journalists, usually in stories about
cloning sheep or GM food.

And now you. Congratulations!

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!


I've never heard a "real person" say it, other than Rog, ITT!

Since I only quoted it, in inverted commas, from Ian, that seems a bit
unobservant of you.


Heavens, so it is! Yours was the first post in the thread I'd bothered to
read, my sincere apologies for the confusion. My point stands, though, this
thread is still the first time I can recall "boffin" being used outside of
a tabloid newspaper! Ian, for shame!



I must admit, I'm surprised it was used in a tabloid in recent times,
guru being both shorter and more 'trendy' or 'on trend' as the current
term is, I believe.

Perhaps you are reading one of the 'better' tabloids these days, such as
the Mail ;-)

(Sorry, I couldn't resist it. I confess I was shocked the other day when
I sat down on a sofa, thoughtfully supplied for weary husbands
accompanying their wife shopping, and reached for the supplied
newspaper, only to find it was the Daily Mail. I was not impressed.)

En el artículo , Brian Reay
escribió:

(Sorry, I couldn't resist it. I confess I was shocked the other day when
I sat down on a sofa, thoughtfully supplied for weary husbands
accompanying their wife shopping, and reached for the supplied
newspaper, only to find it was the Daily Mail. I was not impressed.)

You should have done an Evans and sued the shop for causing you anxiety
and distress.

--
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(='.'=) Windows 10: less of an OS, more of a drive-by mugging.
(")_(") -- "Esme" on el Reg

On 22/05/16 11:54, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Brian Reay
escribió:

(Sorry, I couldn't resist it. I confess I was shocked the other day when
I sat down on a sofa, thoughtfully supplied for weary husbands
accompanying their wife shopping, and reached for the supplied
newspaper, only to find it was the Daily Mail. I was not impressed.)

You should have done an Evans and sued the shop for causing you anxiety
and distress.


I could have included the shock of the bill for the clothes. Why do
women need so many new outfits? I've had my morning suit for 16 years
and my DJ about the same. As for shoes.....

Brian Reay wrote in :

On 22/05/16 11:54, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Brian Reay
escribió:

(Sorry, I couldn't resist it. I confess I was shocked the other day
when I sat down on a sofa, thoughtfully supplied for weary husbands
accompanying their wife shopping, and reached for the supplied
newspaper, only to find it was the Daily Mail. I was not impressed.)

You should have done an Evans and sued the shop for causing you
anxiety and distress.


I could have included the shock of the bill for the clothes. Why do
women need so many new outfits? I've had my morning suit for 16 years
and my DJ about the same. As for shoes.....



Shoes are a substitute for sex, doncha know. Or maybe it's the other way
round.

Brian Reay wrote:
On 22/05/16 10:27, Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:
Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Stephen Thomas Cole
writes
Roger Hayter wrote:
Spike wrote:

On 21/05/2016 11:20, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jeff writes

Well my UK 1956 Collins Dictionary says for 'antenna' noun...
(Wireless)...plural antennas.

So antennas was certainly accepted as correct in the UK in 1956.

Jeff

In the UK, I think it's only some of the more-esoteric scientific
research boffins in WW2 who would have used 'antenna' and 'antennae'.

When R V Jones wrote his report on the Luftwaffe's X-Gerate navigation
and bombing system, he included a photograph of a Heinkel 111 annotated
with arrows pointing to the three aerials of the system, which he had
labelled 'X-Beam antennae'.

[uk.radio.amateur added]

Yes, I think it has more to do wtth the kind of education one has had
(in school, or self-selected), than to with with being 'esoteric' or a
'boffin'. In fact, the very term 'boffin' is rarely heard except when
used by the wilfully ignorant (those who think football is important for
instance) about people who seem cleverer than themselves.


I can honestly say that the only people I have ever heard use the word
"boffin" are tabloid newspaper journalists, usually in stories about
cloning sheep or GM food.

And now you. Congratulations!

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!


I've never heard a "real person" say it, other than Rog, ITT!

Since I only quoted it, in inverted commas, from Ian, that seems a bit
unobservant of you.


Heavens, so it is! Yours was the first post in the thread I'd bothered to
read, my sincere apologies for the confusion. My point stands, though, this
thread is still the first time I can recall "boffin" being used outside of
a tabloid newspaper! Ian, for shame!



I must admit, I'm surprised it was used in a tabloid in recent times,
guru being both shorter and more 'trendy' or 'on trend' as the current
term is, I believe.

I haven't read a tabloid in quite a while, but you see enough headlines
from these rags posted to Facebook and Twitter that the form of language
they use sticks in your mind.

Perhaps you are reading one of the 'better' tabloids these days, such as
the Mail ;-)

Urgh...

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
On 22/05/16 11:54, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Brian Reay
escribió:

(Sorry, I couldn't resist it. I confess I was shocked the other day when
I sat down on a sofa, thoughtfully supplied for weary husbands
accompanying their wife shopping, and reached for the supplied
newspaper, only to find it was the Daily Mail. I was not impressed.)

You should have done an Evans and sued the shop for causing you anxiety
and distress.


I could have included the shock of the bill for the clothes. Why do women
need so many new outfits? I've had my morning suit for 16 years and my DJ
about the same. As for shoes.....



well if their pot ugly they have to compensate .....

On 20/05/2016 13:50, Roger Hayter wrote:
AndyW wrote:


Bottom line: English evolves constantly and Antennas and Antennae are
both correct but one is in the ascendancy and the other is on the wane.
Neither can be said to be the correct one and neither can be said to be
wrong.

Andy
I would like to endorse that last sentence! In the UK both are
acceptable, and the time when we could dictate what is 'correct' to the
rest of the English-speaking world is long past.

If we want a 'correct' usage then we need an English equivalent of the
Academie Francais.

Andy