Just in quest? Seems that all have opinions, just like all have anal
openings. How and when the opinions are shared is one's personal choice.
Many times to the chagrin of the reader, listener, et al fin.
Information shared is great, wisdom gained as to the implementation of the
information is superior to the original material being shared, ability of
receiver to determine which is to be considered is golden. Cheers
"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 01:02:46 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:


"Richard Clark" wrote On Thu, 23 Sep 2004
23:20:34 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

Then thank folks like Richard that *want* to be conservative

Hi Jack,

Still bored? :-)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Hi Richard, nope - and I'm actually erecting that center-fed inverted-L
this
weekend for 2182+ coverage. The advice and help I have received from this
group (and especially from you) is appreciated. I picked up the materials
today at Radio Works in Portsmouth. They suggested I try a bob-tail
curtain
if the L doesn't work out. I don't know anyone using that type of antenna
on
a small scale ( we have a rather monstrous one at work, but it is designed
as a cloud-warmer, out to 300 miles coverage).

Jack


Hi Jack,

Myself, I have just completed building a conventional inverted L.
Just moments from seeing how it plays as I pen this.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:20:34 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

But definitely the least kind of person in the world you would want in a
foxhole with you!


- Mike KB3EIA -


Cheers,

Jack Painter
Virginia Beach VA


Eh? What branch of the service were you in?

bob
k5qwg

"Bob Miller" wrote
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:20:34 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

But definitely the least kind of person in the world you would want in a
foxhole with you!


- Mike KB3EIA -


Cheers,

Jack Painter
Virginia Beach VA


Eh? What branch of the service were you in?

bob
k5qwg


Hello Eh? Try not to take what was only a political analogy too far out of
context. Or are you starting a what branch of the service were you in
thread? Reminds me of letters from kindergardeners to Veterans on Veterans
Day. I get those from my nieces and nephews.

Jack

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:22:32 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:


"Bob Miller" wrote
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:20:34 -0400, "Jack Painter"
wrote:

But definitely the least kind of person in the world you would want in a
foxhole with you!


- Mike KB3EIA -


Cheers,

Jack Painter
Virginia Beach VA


Eh? What branch of the service were you in?

bob
k5qwg


Hello Eh? Try not to take what was only a political analogy too far out of
context. Or are you starting a what branch of the service were you in
thread? Reminds me of letters from kindergardeners to Veterans on Veterans
Day. I get those from my nieces and nephews.

Jack


Just curious what branch ol' chickenhawk Jack served in -- we have too
many such people screwing up the country right now.

bob
k5qwg

Jack Painter wrote in message news:8JG4d.3993$%t3.731@lakeread01...

Unsubstantiated crap or the word of God

Pretty much the same thing, isn't it?

It seems this NG has gone the way of the
rest: the division between the born-again
zealots vs. the normal folks, and the resulting
degradation in human interaction. What a pity!

The zealots are unintentionally giving the
mega-corps and the mega-rich the power to
virtually run this country. Being in absolute
control of the FCC, what they will eventually
do with the radio spectrum (in the interest of
mega-profits) will not be in the interest of
amateur radio - the BPL boondoggle, is a
precursor and good example of what to
expect from an exclusively neo-con, pro
mega-corp government.

It seems apparent that every so often, we
as a people, must re-learn a valuable lesson:
religion should have no power or influence
in the politics of a democracy!

How are you Bu****es going to react when
you realize you've been duped into helping
turn this country into a plutocracy -
theological or not?

Just my opinion, of course...

Chuck, WA7RAI

As a preacher, a "born-again zealot" as you would call it, please keep your
personal opinions to yourself. This news group is about antennas, not
anti-religion rants.

Randy Ka4nma

Theplanters95 wrote in message
...
As a preacher, a "born-again zealot" as you would call it, please keep your
personal opinions to yourself. This news group is about antennas, not
anti-religion rants.

Randy Ka4nma

Hi Randy,

Religious fanaticism is anti liberty, and liberty
is the foundation of American values. To speak
out against this lunacy does not make one anti
religious, just anti fanatic... anti zealot - a
distinction that seems to have evaded you.

The Islamic Jihadist's and terrorists are religious
zealots (fanatics) that hate liberty loving folks
(liberals) every bit as much as you do. Zealots
are zealots, regardless of clothes they wear or
the deity they worship.

Jesus' sermon on the mound, was certainly NOT
about fanaticism... or political power, deception,
and spreading lies about opponents... just the
opposite, in fact!

That said, you should have noticed the topic
of my post was about political ramifications in
regards to ham radio. It was not anti-religious.

Chuck, WA7RAI

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:04:18 -0700, "Chuck"
wrote:

The zealots are unintentionally giving the
mega-corps and the mega-rich the power to
virtually run this country. Being in absolute
control of the FCC, what they will eventually
do with the radio spectrum (in the interest of
mega-profits) will not be in the interest of
amateur radio - the BPL boondoggle, is a
precursor and good example of what to
expect from an exclusively neo-con, pro
mega-corp government.

"Now I saw in my dream that Christian and Hopeful forsook Mr. By-ends,
and kept their distance before him; but one of them looking back, saw
three men following Mr. By-ends, and behold, as they came up with him,
he made them a very low bow; and they also gave him a compliment. The
men's names were Mr. Hold-the-world, Mr. Money-love, and Mr. Save-all;
men that Mr. By-ends had formerly been acquainted with; for in their
minority they were schoolfellows, and were taught by one Mr.
Gripe-man, a schoolmaster in Love-gain, which is a market town in the
county of Coveting, in the north. This schoolmaster taught them the
art of getting, either by violence, cozenage, flattery, lying, or by
putting on the guise of religion; and these four gentlemen had
attained much of the art of their master, so that they could each of
them have kept such a school themselves.

"Well, when they had, as I said, thus saluted each other, Mr.
Money-love said to Mr. By-ends, Who are they upon the road before us?
(for Christian and Hopeful were yet within view).

"BY-ENDS. They are a couple of far countrymen, that, after their mode,
are going on pilgrimage.

"MONEY-LOVE. Alas! Why did they not stay, that we might have had
their good company? for they, and we, and you, Sir, I hope, are all
going on pilgrimage.

"BY-ENDS. Why, they, after their headstrong manner, conclude that it
is duty to rush on their journey all weathers; and I am for waiting
for wind and tide. They are for hazarding all for God at a clap; and
I am for taking all advantages to secure my life and estate. They are
for holding their notions, though all other men are against them; but
I am for religion in what, and so far as the times, and my safety,
will bear it. They are for religion when in rags and contempt; but I
am for him when he walks in his golden slippers, in the sunshine, and
with applause."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:04:18 -0700, "Chuck"
wrote:


The zealots are unintentionally giving the
mega-corps and the mega-rich the power to
virtually run this country. Being in absolute
control of the FCC, what they will eventually
do with the radio spectrum (in the interest of
mega-profits) will not be in the interest of
amateur radio - the BPL boondoggle, is a
precursor and good example of what to
expect from an exclusively neo-con, pro
mega-corp government.


"Now I saw in my dream that Christian and Hopeful forsook Mr. By-ends,
and kept their distance before him; but one of them looking back, saw
three men following Mr. By-ends, and behold, as they came up with him,
he made them a very low bow; and they also gave him a compliment. The
men's names were Mr. Hold-the-world, Mr. Money-love, and Mr. Save-all;
men that Mr. By-ends had formerly been acquainted with; for in their
minority they were schoolfellows, and were taught by one Mr.
Gripe-man, a schoolmaster in Love-gain, which is a market town in the
county of Coveting, in the north. This schoolmaster taught them the
art of getting, either by violence, cozenage, flattery, lying, or by
putting on the guise of religion; and these four gentlemen had
attained much of the art of their master, so that they could each of
them have kept such a school themselves.

"Well, when they had, as I said, thus saluted each other, Mr.
Money-love said to Mr. By-ends, Who are they upon the road before us?
(for Christian and Hopeful were yet within view).

"BY-ENDS. They are a couple of far countrymen, that, after their mode,
are going on pilgrimage.

"MONEY-LOVE. Alas! Why did they not stay, that we might have had
their good company? for they, and we, and you, Sir, I hope, are all
going on pilgrimage.

"BY-ENDS. Why, they, after their headstrong manner, conclude that it
is duty to rush on their journey all weathers; and I am for waiting
for wind and tide. They are for hazarding all for God at a clap; and
I am for taking all advantages to secure my life and estate. They are
for holding their notions, though all other men are against them; but
I am for religion in what, and so far as the times, and my safety,
will bear it. They are for religion when in rags and contempt; but I
am for him when he walks in his golden slippers, in the sunshine, and
with applause."

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

This sounds like Pilgrim's Progress. I never thought, in my wildest
dreams, anyone would ever quote it on the internet.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:02:27 GMT, "Tom Donaly"
wrote:

This sounds like Pilgrim's Progress.

It is.

Hi Tom,

When common sense takes the back seat (or left to hitch-hike home),
fables have often risen in defense against the caprice of arbitrary
power. Literature is rich in regard to the travesty of logic that is
being passed off as the boon of a new age. I could have as easily
found material in the Canterbury Tales, The Decameron, The Song of
Roland, The Poem of the Cid.... The effete nabobs of negativism in
our Administration shrink in sharp contrast to the legendary heroes of
fighting cultures. Bush in his flight suit and helmet reminds me of
that pathetic picture of Dukakis in the Tank - what a matched pair!

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC