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Airy R. Bean January 9th 05 03:52 PM

I make the wavelength to be 2204 metres.

"'Doc" wrote in message
om...

PS - If you're going to use 136 Khz, make that 10 miles.




David Edmonds January 9th 05 03:52 PM

Airy R. Bean wrote:

Another way is to go to your local electrical wholesaler
(assuming he will deal with you now we're past Jan 1st/Part P)
and buy one of those chocolate-box-like strips for commoning
up 6mm green-and-yellow to clamp all the wires together.


Also available from some branches of Wickes and B&Q Warehouses.

Not had any problems purchasing from electrical wholesalers as I fitted
a shower for one of the daughters over Xmas and decided to put in one of
the pull cord switches for her to isolate the shower - purchased this
week (post 1/1/2005) from one of the larger suppliers with no questions
asked.

Maybe it's the installation and not supplying that is under question -
though typically our government bring in a silly law such as this -
while they know that there is no right of entry to inspect.

David.

Airy R. Bean January 9th 05 03:53 PM

Staples? Presumably fashion from short lengths of
fencing wire, or similar?

"Ian White, G3SEK" wrote in message
...
Zero inches, if you can. Cut the grass very short in a few weeks' time,
and staple the radials down. This part of the question was discussed
here, only a week ago.




Spike January 9th 05 03:57 PM

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:52:22 GMT, David Edmonds
wrote:

Maybe it's the installation and not supplying that is under question -
though typically our government bring in a silly law such as this -
while they know that there is no right of entry to inspect.


The problem arises when you try to sell your house. A prospective
purchaser's solicitor will ask for the certificates for any work you
admit to having been done post Jan 1.
--
from
Aero Spike

Spike January 9th 05 03:59 PM

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:52:09 -0000, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:


"'Doc" wrote in message
. com...

PS - If you're going to use 136 Khz, make that 10 miles.


I make the wavelength to be 2204 metres.


Your point being what, exactly?
--
from
Aero Spike

Brian Reay January 9th 05 04:02 PM

"David Edmonds" wrote in message
...
Airy R. Bean wrote:

Another way is to go to your local electrical wholesaler
(assuming he will deal with you now we're past Jan 1st/Part P)
and buy one of those chocolate-box-like strips for commoning
up 6mm green-and-yellow to clamp all the wires together.


Also available from some branches of Wickes and B&Q Warehouses.

Not had any problems purchasing from electrical wholesalers as I fitted
a shower for one of the daughters over Xmas and decided to put in one of
the pull cord switches for her to isolate the shower - purchased this
week (post 1/1/2005) from one of the larger suppliers with no questions
asked.

Maybe it's the installation and not supplying that is under question -
though typically our government bring in a silly law such as this -
while they know that there is no right of entry to inspect.


"Part P" doesn't stop DIY electrical work but such work MAY need to be
inspected. In fact, some level of inspection has always been imposed- the
electricity supply company does a check before connecting the "meter tails".

I admit to mix views on Part P, unnecessary red tape for those of us who
either know the correct way to do things, or are prepared to learn them, but
it is protection from those who believe in polarised resistors ;-)


--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898



Airy R. Bean January 9th 05 04:09 PM

ISTR that the person who introduced the concept of
polarised resistors was you.

Yet again you make the Freudian Slip of uttering a rather
silly sneer that actually applies to yourself.

SFB, or what?!

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
I admit to mix views on Part P, unnecessary red tape for those of us who
either know the correct way to do things, or are prepared to learn them,

but
it is protection from those who believe in polarised resistors ;-)




David Edmonds January 9th 05 04:13 PM

Brian Reay wrote:

I admit to mix views on Part P, unnecessary red tape for those of us who
either know the correct way to do things, or are prepared to learn them,


I admit I would like to learn but prefer to spend my time doing other
things - and admit that the house here is quite safe as we've had few
electrical additions done apart from outside lighting. Everything else
'plugs in' so is not covered by the new regs.

but
it is protection from those who believe in polarised resistors ;-)


That was a low punch Brian - especially on a day when the design for the
latest ground-breaking reinvention of the wheel in radio form is being
proposed and discussed.

Sadly - like a plane with no engine - it won't ever get off the ground.

David.

Brian Reay January 9th 05 04:23 PM

"David Edmonds" wrote in message
...
Brian Reay wrote:

I admit to mix views on Part P, unnecessary red tape for those of us who
either know the correct way to do things, or are prepared to learn them,


I admit I would like to learn but prefer to spend my time doing other
things - and admit that the house here is quite safe as we've had few
electrical additions done apart from outside lighting. Everything else
'plugs in' so is not covered by the new regs.

but
it is protection from those who believe in polarised resistors ;-)


That was a low punch Brian - especially on a day when the design for the
latest ground-breaking reinvention of the wheel in radio form is being
proposed and discussed.


Sorry but nobody is perfect.

Seriously, I still quote the (in)famous line about knowing one end of a
resistor from another in training courses. Always gets a laugh and, as you
probably know, a little humour in a lesson works wonders.

Sadly - like a plane with no engine - it won't ever get off the ground.


In this case I think train not leaving the station as the signals don't work
is more appropriate.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898



Airy R. Bean January 9th 05 04:25 PM

Then more fool you, if you don't understand the
necessity of reading the colour code from the
correct end.

(I wonder if you hold, or have ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is
the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme? You certainly
make yourself out as stupid and as ignorant enough.)

"Brian Reay" wrote in message
...
Seriously, I still quote the (in)famous line about knowing one end of a
resistor from another in training courses.





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