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![]() Next time, just before you hit the Post button, you might want to look at the title of the thread. If he just meant *solder*, he wouldn't have included *low-temp* in the Subject line. so - what's your "favorite" solder, dude? |
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:43:35 -0500 "Hal Rosser"
wrote: eutectic (if my memory serves) just means it's either solid or liquid - and won't just 'soften' - like ice and water. The eutectic alloy is the one which has the right proportions to give it the minimum melting point for a given set of constituent metals. I've only seen the word applied to binary alloys, but I suppose it could be applied to alloys of 3 or more metals, too. I'm not sure if that's a proper use of the term, however. A side effect of using the eutectic alloy is that there is a distinctive melting point. When the alloy is non-eutectic, there are separate solidus and liquidus points, between which the alloy is just more or less "slushy." There is no slushy region when a eutectic alloy melts. This sounds like what Hal was describing above. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- |
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The eutectic combination of tin and lead is 63% tin, 37% lead. 60/40 has
a slightly higher melting point, and unlike the eutectic alloy, has a plastic stage between liquid and solid. Consequently, 63/37 is a better choice for solder. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Hal Rosser wrote: plain old 60-40 rosin-core electrical solder has worked well for me - got mine at a hamfest on a half-pound roll. the silver stuff (I believe) melts at higher temperatures - and higher temperatures are not good for electronics. eutectic (if my memory serves) just means it's either solid or liquid - and won't just 'soften' - like ice and water. hth Hal w4pmj |
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![]() In article , Roy Lewallen wrote: The eutectic combination of tin and lead is 63% tin, 37% lead. 60/40 has a slightly higher melting point, and unlike the eutectic alloy, has a plastic stage between liquid and solid. Consequently, 63/37 is a better choice for solder. I understand that there's a tradeoff involved. The 63/37 eutectic has a lower melting point and no plastic stage, and some people feel that the latter reduces the risk of 'cold' solder joints somewhat. On the other hand, I've read that the 60/40 alloy is somewhat superior in its "wetting" property - it adheres and bonds to some base metals better than the eutectic does, and might make superior joints as a result. I tend to prefer the eutectic, or a eutectic modified with 2% silver. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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2 or 3% silver is added to tin-lead solder to prevent leaching of gold
or silver terminations from certain surface mount components (and the terminal strips in very old Tektronix scopes). These components are often used for hybrid circuits, but solder-coated terminations seem a lot more common for components intended for PCB use. I haven't seen a leaching problem with the solder-coated terminations using ordinary tin-lead solder. Is there some other advantage of a 2 or 3% silver addition? Roy Lewallen, W7EL Dave Platt wrote: . . . I tend to prefer the eutectic, or a eutectic modified with 2% silver. |
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Yes. This little addition of silver adds a very LARGE amount of strength to
the joint. PLEASE don't ask me to climb up to the top shelf to give you numbers.... {;-) Jim Is there some other advantage of a 2 or 3% silver addition? Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Roy Lewallen wrote:
2 or 3% silver is added to tin-lead solder to prevent leaching of gold or silver terminations from certain surface mount components (and the terminal strips in very old Tektronix scopes). These components are often used for hybrid circuits, but solder-coated terminations seem a lot more common for components intended for PCB use. I haven't seen a leaching problem with the solder-coated terminations using ordinary tin-lead solder. Is there some other advantage of a 2 or 3% silver addition? Roy Lewallen, W7EL Higher melting point and greater strength; specialty applications. -- Jim Pennino Remove -spam-sux to reply. |
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In article ,
Roy Lewallen wrote: 2 or 3% silver is added to tin-lead solder to prevent leaching of gold or silver terminations from certain surface mount components (and the terminal strips in very old Tektronix scopes). These components are often used for hybrid circuits, but solder-coated terminations seem a lot more common for components intended for PCB use. I haven't seen a leaching problem with the solder-coated terminations using ordinary tin-lead solder. Is there some other advantage of a 2 or 3% silver addition? A fair number of surface-mount components (caps and resistors) use silvered terminations. Some of them have an anti-leaching coating over the silver (nickel, or solder with or without silver), others don't. There's also silver plating on some of the RF connectors I use. I'm probably being excessively cautious, but figure that it can't hurt to use a silver-loaded solder and it might save me one or two failures over time. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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![]() "Roy Lewallen" wrote in message ... snip (and the terminal strips in very old Tektronix scopes). snip Roy Lewallen, W7EL HEY! I resemble that statement. What do you mean VERY OLD? Seems like just last week. -- Crazy George Remove N O and S P A M imbedded in return address |
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:43:35 -0500, Hal Rosser wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... I've had good luck with the kester 62/36/2% silver stuff, which is eutectic. Many many years ago, I had some luck with a indium-bismuth solder paste in syringes from Indium Corp. Haven't fiddled with any of their stuff since then. Radio Shack sells a bag of little peices of tape-form stuff. Never got it to work well. Favorites? plain old 60-40 rosin-core electrical solder has worked well for me - got mine at a hamfest on a half-pound roll. the silver stuff (I believe) melts at higher temperatures - and higher temperatures are not good for electronics. eutectic (if my memory serves) just means it's either solid or liquid - and won't just 'soften' - like ice and water. hth Hal w4pmj 63/37 solder is eutectic. |
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