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what Z range ?
Longwire antenna. Coil in parallel with var cap for matching circuit.
What is the likely Z range such a circuit might match? |
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"RB" wrote Longwire antenna. Coil in parallel with var cap for matching circuit. What is the likely Z range such a circuit might match? ------------------------------------------------- Easy! Just say how long is the wire, at what height, at what frequency, and the impedance of the ground connection, and lo-and-behold, all will be revealed by a calculation which will involve arithmetic. And arithmetic is an unwelcome subject on this newsgroup. Not that the resulting value of Z = X + jY will be of much use to you. What plans do you have to do with it? In a fraction of the time expended in vague questions and obtaining even more vague replies, why not erect the wire, as you propose, and connect the capacitor in parallel to see what happens. But you may save even more time by connecting the capacitor in series. Good luck with your experiments. ---- Reg. |
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"RB" wrote Longwire antenna. Coil in parallel with var cap for matching circuit. What is the likely Z range such a circuit might match? ------------------------------------------------- To put you in a good-enough ball-park, the input impedance of a vertical wire, or an inverted-L antenna, is R + jX, where - R = Square( 24 * L / Lambda ) ohms. X = - 550 / Tangent( Angle ) ohms, and where L = overall length of the wire in metres. Lambda = free-space wavelength in metres. Angle = 2 * Pi * L / Lambda, in radians. Or alternatively, Angle = 360 * L / Lambda, in degrees. For a thick lattice mast, change 550 to 350. If you know what it is, add the ground electrode resistance to R. Otherwise make a guess. The foregoing good-enough approximations apply to overall wire lengths or heights of 3/8 wavelengths or shorter. Note that when L / Lambda passes through 1/4-wavelength, the reactance X passes through zero and changes from negative (capacitative) to positive (inductive). And R passes through 36 ohms as is common knowledge. About the only practical use of the above pair of equations is if you intend to follow by designing your own tuner, coil and capacitor values. Or checking that a commercial tuner has an adequate range of operation. For this a small computer program is needed unless you have hours to spend on doing the unavoidable calculations. But the real value of such simple equations lies in their ability to precisely and very succinctly describe how antennas WORK. Far, far better than thousands of vague words, spread over years, from agumentative, disruptive, albeit well-intentioned do-gooders. ---- Reg, G4FGQ |
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Dear (I really mean it) Roy,
For my (unstated) benefit, you semi-seriously describe yourself as an 'old wife'. Now, I have NEVER described anyone as being an 'old wife'. I am too polite. Although, I must admit, I do occasionly infer that such people do exist. They are not objectionable If you think the cap fits, then wear it. (Old English proverb.) But you don't! But for the benefit of anyone mildly interested, who may be unfamiliar with the goings-on on this newsgroup, YOU are the VERY last person who I would remotely associate with being an 'old wife'. Just keep yourself familiar with 'arithmetic' and 'maths' will look after itself. ;o) History, Arithmetic and Elementary Statistics are the most neglected subjects in English primary schools. They are easy and simple enough and occupy little time. But what can be expected from ill-educated teachers? I suspect the same applies in the USA. I understand school teachers in the USA wear bullet-proof jackets. But, in general, I am restricted to the BBC and the largely US-controlled unruly English newspapers which concentrate on swasticas and the royal family, nudes, the sexual habits of film-stars, cat-walk celebraties and overpaid Manchester United football players. After all, everybody has a right to make a living of some sort! ---- Just another advert from Reg, G4FGQ |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:37:53 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
wrote: and overpaid Manchester United football players Hi Reggie, Just can't get Yanks (their goalie) off the radar screen, hmmm? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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RB wrote:
"What is the likely Z range such a circuit might match?" A coil in parallel with a variable capacitor can be tuned to offset reactance in the antenna. At resonance, a parallel circuit with a high Q has a very high impedance. Edmund A. Laport in "Radio Antenna Engineering" writes on page 310: "Experiment has shown that the correct termination of a long-wire in this manner (low-characteristic impedance wire to maximize antenna current) requires a complex impedance and not solely a resistance. The terminal impedance is of the type R+jX. The inductive reactance can be obtained from the extension wire by making it longer than one-quarter wavelength. This means that the correct resistance, obtained by experiment, must also be located in the correct place along the wire, and that the correct location is more than one-quarter wavelength from the end of the wire. The resistance has an order of magnitude of 400 to 600 ohms in many cases, and 500 ohms is suggested as a starting place for trials when the antenna consists of a single wire. The reactance values required usually should be between j150 and j250 ohms, so that with thin wire, the extension wire whould be somewhere around 105 degrees long." Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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I thank you very much for the kind words.
But on more than a few occasions, I've found that I firmly believe something you have said with an air of confidence, even certainty, that is a belief only of "old wives". Therefore it's an inescapable conclusion that I am one. Don't fret -- the title of "Reg's old wife" is one I wear with pride, if a modicum of bemusement. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Reg Edwards wrote: Dear (I really mean it) Roy, For my (unstated) benefit, you semi-seriously describe yourself as an 'old wife'. Now, I have NEVER described anyone as being an 'old wife'. I am too polite. Although, I must admit, I do occasionly infer that such people do exist. They are not objectionable If you think the cap fits, then wear it. (Old English proverb.) But you don't! But for the benefit of anyone mildly interested, who may be unfamiliar with the goings-on on this newsgroup, YOU are the VERY last person who I would remotely associate with being an 'old wife'. Just keep yourself familiar with 'arithmetic' and 'maths' will look after itself. ;o) History, Arithmetic and Elementary Statistics are the most neglected subjects in English primary schools. They are easy and simple enough and occupy little time. But what can be expected from ill-educated teachers? I suspect the same applies in the USA. I understand school teachers in the USA wear bullet-proof jackets. But, in general, I am restricted to the BBC and the largely US-controlled unruly English newspapers which concentrate on swasticas and the royal family, nudes, the sexual habits of film-stars, cat-walk celebraties and overpaid Manchester United football players. After all, everybody has a right to make a living of some sort! ---- Just another advert from Reg, G4FGQ |
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