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![]() "Richard Clark" wrote in message news ![]() On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:52:00 GMT, "Frank" wrote: Note that a 140 ft dipole resonates at 3.34 MHz. Hi Frank, I also note that the "Cobra" doubles the number of resonances across the 2 to 30 MHz spectrum with the resonances coming in adjacent pairs. Our sometime correspondent, Dr. Slick, thinks he invented this characteristic with his mystery, garden variety dipole; but it is a simple matter of putting a bend in the wire. This one manipulation was also the foundation of the "fractal" antenna, but "scientists" gushed on with baroque explanations and hyperbolic claims to disguise a rather mundane oddity. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Hi Richard: Here, below, are the data from a 140 ft "Cobra" type antenna compared with a 140 ft dipole. I modeled #24 AWG, spaced 1", with 1" segments. My previous comment about 2000 segments maximum was incorrect, and NEC can go to 10,000 segments. As it is, the model contained over 5,000 segments, and took almost 2 hours to run. The NEC output file contained about 250,000 lines of data in a 14.5 MB text file. While the 1" segmentation is well below the minimum lambda/1000 recommended by the NEC manual, a transmission line with similar dimensions gave results very close to the expected value of 550 Ohms. These results could therefore be considered as a reasonable validation of the antenna model. Not sure why EZNEC cannot deal with such a model. From an operational point of view there seems to be very little difference between a 140 ft "Cobra" antenna, and a 140 ft dipole. On some frequencies it is noted that the Cobra exhibits a lower efficiency. The data are noticeably different from your results (note that at 2 MHz both our results show an imaginary part of 0), but probably due to the large difference in dimensions. I was not able to verify the number of resonances due to the very long run times. If I had attempted 0.2 MHz steps the program would have run for 8 to 10 hours and generated over a million lines of output data. I think what I need is 64 bit dual processor system to tackle such a problem. Most of the claims I have read on e-ham.net can be considered as unverifiable nonsense. I certainly agree with your comments on the design. As for "fractal" antennas, I do not really know anything about them, so cannot comment. One thing that does come out of this modeling is that an antenna does not have to be very much longer than a 1/4 wave long to provide reasonable input impedances. Incidentally my model was run in free space, so have no data on take-off angle. I doubt it would be very different. 73, Frank Cobra 140 ft Dipole Frequency Real(Z) Imag(Z) Efficiency Real(Z) Imag(Z) Efficiency (MHz) (Ohms) (Ohms) (%) (Ohms) (Ohms) ( %) 2 71.216 201.878 36 18 -737.554 98 4 140.456 810.61 66 125.32 272.626 99 5 511.886 -23.295 92 359.372 872.604 99.6 7 1889.15 -1965.46 98 2670.88 -2355.48 99.6 10 137.527 -758.652 46 90.313 -165.43 99 14 1465.88 -1284.19 97 2158.99 -1485.13 99.6 18 233.57 679.892 65 180.16 224.359 99.2 21 1272.82 -1009.83 97 1926.04 -1113.17 99.5 24 217.887 -864.421 36 120.373 -159.68 98.9 28 1155.79 -852.805 97 1783.27 -886.08 99.5 |