Ed Price wrote:
"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
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Is anyone else being deluged with Virus/Worm email messages?
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Me too - 2000 per day.

Terrorist attack or just another up-and-coming Bill Gates?

G4FGQ, UK





I don't recall anything in Gates' career that's equivalent to the present
worm attack.
Do you have any factual backup for your off-hand slander?

He isn't responsible for this.

But he IS responsible for the abysmally poor software his company
writes. It is a litany of flaws.

- Mike KB3EIA -

The virus is in the original attachments and at the web site the text urges
you to download. If you don't open the attachment, or download the
"security patch", you won't get the virus. However, you will get floods of
this kind of traffic. It's coming from infected computers that have your
email address, and from your email address harvested from newsgroups, and
even from some web sites you've gone to. I think the flooding will continue
for awhile longer.

Some ISPs neutralize the attachment, but the message comes on through with
an empty attachment. Whatever, don't take a chance and open the attachment.

If you haven't done it yet, mung your newsgroup email address so this won't
happen in the future. Something like . That will keep
you from getting flooded in the future.

If you use Norton System Works or Norton Antivirus, bring up their main
configuration screen, click on antivirus options email and choose the
last item: "Repair and silently delete if unsuccessful". The messages end
up pronto in the Deleted Item folder where you can check later for desirable
messages that might have slipped through and then get rid of all the nasties
with one right click on that folder. Saves a lot of aggravation. Keep
incoming email scanning on.

Marty K1FHR


"RB" wrote in message ...
The virus is in the original attachments and at the web site the text
urges
you to download. If you don't open the attachment, or download the
"security patch", you won't get the virus. However, you will get floods
of
this kind of traffic. It's coming from infected computers that have your
email address, and from your email address harvested from newsgroups, and
even from some web sites you've gone to. I think the flooding will
continue
for awhile longer.

Some ISPs neutralize the attachment, but the message comes on through with
an empty attachment. Whatever, don't take a chance and open the
attachment.

If you haven't done it yet, mung your newsgroup email address so this
won't
happen in the future. Something like . That will
keep
you from getting flooded in the future.

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Ed Price wrote:
"Reg Edwards" wrote in message
...

Is anyone else being deluged with Virus/Worm email messages?
--

================================

Me too - 2000 per day.

Terrorist attack or just another up-and-coming Bill Gates?

G4FGQ, UK





I don't recall anything in Gates' career that's equivalent to the
present
worm attack.
Do you have any factual backup for your off-hand slander?

He isn't responsible for this.

But he IS responsible for the abysmally poor software his company
writes. It is a litany of flaws.

- Mike KB3EIA -


My point is that you should save your litanies for the correct occasions.
You can't respond to every net problem with a half-ass reference to
"Redmond" or "Gates".

In point of fact, this IS a terrorist attack. Although software should be
robust, the majority of your ire should be directed toward the terrorist
attacker.

Ed
WB6WSN

'Doc wrote:
The two smartest things I've ever done was invest in a
good antivirus program and a good firewall.

I've got those but they don't block the emails telling me a virus
has been removed.
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73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp



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"Ed Price" wrote in message

I don't recall anything in Gates' career that's equivalent to the present
worm attack.
Do you have any factual backup for your off-hand slander?

Ed
WB6WSN

Well, as far as I'm concerned, he had as much hand in it as anyone. If
his company would quit selling reader software with enough holes to
qualify as swiss cheese, many of these macro viruses wouldn't have a
leg to stand on. I've had 100's of server returns accusing me of
spreading viruses, and also that I'm running Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2600.0000. But this is not the case. I use old bulletproof
netscape 3.1 to read mail. These viruses are a non issue to me. Why
are they an issue to a software that is supposed to be a step up from
the ancient reader I'm using? If everyone would quit running Billware
6.00.2600.0000, we could nip this macro virus thing in the bud.
Probably would stop 90% of it overnight. Heck, with all the latest
holes in these new win OS's they are spitting out, I'm temped to stay
with win98 a few more years. MK

"Mark Keith" wrote in message
om...
"Ed Price" wrote in message

I don't recall anything in Gates' career that's equivalent to the
present
worm attack.
Do you have any factual backup for your off-hand slander?

Ed
WB6WSN

Well, as far as I'm concerned, he had as much hand in it as anyone. If
his company would quit selling reader software with enough holes to
qualify as swiss cheese, many of these macro viruses wouldn't have a
leg to stand on. I've had 100's of server returns accusing me of
spreading viruses, and also that I'm running Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2600.0000. But this is not the case. I use old bulletproof
netscape 3.1 to read mail. These viruses are a non issue to me. Why
are they an issue to a software that is supposed to be a step up from
the ancient reader I'm using? If everyone would quit running Billware
6.00.2600.0000, we could nip this macro virus thing in the bud.
Probably would stop 90% of it overnight. Heck, with all the latest
holes in these new win OS's they are spitting out, I'm temped to stay
with win98 a few more years. MK

In other words, nothing factual, just "as far as I'm concerned." Thank you
for your rant.

Ed
WB6WSN

"David or Jo Anne Ryeburn" wrote in message
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In article , "Dee D.
Flint" wrote:

I've tried to trap them but the headers and senders, etc are all
different.

The "From:" lines are likely forged. Many such worms and viruses pick
recipients and purported senders randomly from the infected computer's
Outlook or Outlook Express address list. If you want to see where the
message really is coming from, examine full headers carefully --
specifically, the "Received: from" lines.

If you have a suggestion on how to stop them, please let us all in on
it.

Persuade the universe to cease using unsafe operating system software,
browsers, and e-mail programs coming from Redmond, WA ;-). UNIX, including
the version now marketed by Apple, is pretty safe.

David, ex-W8EZE, whose computers are happily MS-free except for safe 11
year old versions of Word and Excel

If everyone switched to UNIX, the solution would be short-lived as the virus
writers would then switch to attacking it. Right now, they simply get more
"bang for the buck" by attacking Windows and it doesn't give them much of a
thrill to also go after UNIX system users or Apple computer users.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Cecil,
Each antivirus program is different, but most have
an email checking option, both incoming and outgoing
email. That option should be activated. The options
for email checking vary, some require that you decide
what to do about an infected email, some will 'clean'
it automatically or get rid of it in some way. Which
method you choose is up to you.
Firewalls are even more varied than antivirus
programs and are a real P.I.T.A. to set up correctly.
so R.T.F.M. is the key with them. It also depends on
the programs/TSR's you use. Some are not safe at all.
Richard listed a site in his post that is very very good
about telling you the how/what/where about spamming and
virus/worm/?? activities. The utilities on that site
work, are a good idea, and I recommend them.
'Doc

PS - These virus 'floods' are still a P.I.T.A. and I
have to delete them, but they stand NO chance of
infecting my machine.

Dear Mr. Flint and group:
I am told by knowledgeable UNIX people (another partitioning of the
world) that the structure of UNIX is such that attacks can not be
successful. I am told that there are only three ports into/outof UNIX
modules and it is simple to guard them.
The Bill ware OSs allow all sorts of back doors and side doors and
over-the-transom ports.
What I do not understand is why someone has not funded a set of
bright Indian programmers to produce an OS that can execute Window
programs without committing the errors made by Bill's people. There is
a Unix based program that is able to execute some, well behaved Windows
programs.
I threaten my students with eternal haunting if they ever write a
control program in Bill style. 73 Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin - Michigan USA
Home:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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"David or Jo Anne Ryeburn" wrote in message
...
In article , "Dee
D.
Flint" wrote:

snip

Persuade the universe to cease using unsafe operating system
software,
browsers, and e-mail programs coming from Redmond, WA ;-). UNIX,
including
the version now marketed by Apple, is pretty safe.

David, ex-W8EZE, whose computers are happily MS-free except for safe
11
year old versions of Word and Excel

If everyone switched to UNIX, the solution would be short-lived as the
virus
writers would then switch to attacking it. Right now, they simply get
more
"bang for the buck" by attacking Windows and it doesn't give them much
of a
thrill to also go after UNIX system users or Apple computer users.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE